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Shaggy said:
Did they all get tested?
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4 of the 9. One thought she contracted it but tested as soon as she got back and come to find out over three weeks after her test she was negative. My fiancés grandmother was tested as surgery protocol because she had a scheduled surgery the week after the trip and she was also negative. Fiancé tested twice and was negative both times. Future father in law had to test to return to work. He was also negative. Not one person got sick. The law of averages would say at least a handful of people inside the house should have gotten sick yet that wasn’t the case. Incredible, really.
 
Ghost said:
My 17 year old was in direct contact (less than 6 feet of separation) and no mask with 2 different people who tested positive. About 3 weeks apart from each other

One was his swim coach the other was a friend he rode with to get pizza. He never had any sign of being sick. If he had it with no symptoms he did not spread it to anyone In our house. I can’t figure out the spread of this virus
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Exactly. No one even knows what makes a person more prone to getting the virus. No one knows how it spreads. No one knows jack sh**. The more they pretend they know, the more I lose faith in what they’re telling me. The more they tell me what to do, the more I don’t want to do what they tell me to do.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
4 of the 9. One thought she contracted it but tested as soon as she got back and come to find out over three weeks after her test she was negative. My fiancés grandmother was tested as surgery protocol because she had a scheduled surgery the week after the trip and she was also negative. Fiancé tested twice and was negative both times. Future father in law had to test to return to work. He was also negative. Not one person got sick. The law of averages would say at least a handful of people inside the house should have gotten sick yet that wasn’t the case. Incredible, really.
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Glad none of them became ill
 
Yall worried about mask. Lol check out your smart phone. We all had a covid 19 sensor installed on them this weekend.
Android go to settings, Google settings and youll find it installed there.
Iphone go to settings,privacy,health. Its there waiting for you to install.
 
NCSNOW said:
Yall worried about mask. Lol check out your smart phone. We all had a covid 19 sensor installed on them this weekend.
Android go to settings, Google settings and youll find it installed there.
Iphone go to settings,privacy,health. Its there waiting for you to install.
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I was kinda being funny about it.
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Think Jimmy is like a lot of folks, myself. They kept saying flatten the curve and we did. But its like the goal post move everyday. You have a lot of folks who want a complete shutdown again for a couple of months,trying to make that aurgument all over again. People have lost their entire life long investments from these shutdowns. 1000s. Yes they, we all value life. But the cure has become a bigger problem than the virus to a multitude. Thats where alot of the fustration is stemming from. Its a no win for eitheir side of the debate. Think both sides can agree upon that.

I have little to no faith in wearing a mask thats not n95. I wear them (dont possess a n95) in stores because its the good citizen thing to do,brings peace to others. No biggie. Have elderly to care for and certainly understand cancer survivors etc being on pins n needles. Im not a spring chicken myself. Point is, we got to be realistic and get to the point past shutdowns,mask etc. The lack of information, investigative reporting,news etc is mind boggeling. If Ive learned one thing so far, its the folks suposedly in the know, science, govt what have you know as little as I know about Corono. If they do know,its buried and not reported by MSM.
 
weatherfide said:
About wearing masks. Interview on cbs sixty minutes where he said people should not walk around wearing masks to prevent COVID. Now he says, yeah do that. He has been wrong on so many aspects of this thing, including best treatments. Wants to sell you and expensive drug when a cheap effective treatment is readily available. Also, who elected this clown? Why does he suddenly have authority to dictate how people should behave?
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Probably people like you. Now see what he's got us into.
 
Shaggy said:
Oh man yall got conned. A preacher!! Oh my.

www.yahoo.com

Trump Retweets COVID-19 Video Yanked By Social Media For Pushing Fake Cure

Trump was on a pro-hydroxychloroquine retweet tear.
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So for the record, it sounds like we have unanimous agreement, with the exception of far right sources (and of course, those people affiliated with the Trump administration) that hydroxychloroquine is not only ineffective as a treatment for Covid-19, but it could also be harmful and perhaps fatal as well.

Do I have that right?
 
www.factcheck.org

Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count - FactCheck.org

Q: Are hospitals inflating the number of COVID-19 cases and deaths so they can be paid more? A: Recent legislation pays hospitals higher Medicare rates for COVID-19 patients and treatment, but there is no evidence of fraudulent reporting. FULL QUESTION Are hospitals getting 13,000 per patient if...
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NoSnowATL said:
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These people have ZERO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE (that is a blind study medical peer review abstract) on the efficacy of HCQ, Z-Pak, and Zinc combined to treat CoVid-19. They have, what is called in the medical field “flawed medical research” if it can even be called research. Remember, causation does not equal correlation with their findings.

They are merely taking anecdotal evidence and using it to further their agenda. The danger in this is that there is no “control” group. You cannot do a drug study and hope for it to show a positive finding without it being A) diverse B) blind C) controlled and D) used with a placebo within the study. [mention]Jon [/mention] can back me on this since he is in the medical field just like I was.
 
DarkKnight said:
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Maybe we should create a separate thread for the conspiracy-theory-minded folks. If you live in a world where everything is a conspiracy, that eventually makes you the one who determines what is true and what is not. If this is all a grand conspiracy to remove Trump; for hospital executives to get rich; for Bill Gates to control the world; for Fauci to get super rich from a vaccine, then it is the greatest hoax of all time. I mean, just think of how theses powerful few have been able to get almost every country on earth to participate. It's amazing. Hats off to them for orchestrating such a grand scheme!
 
Poimen said:
Maybe we should create a separate thread for the conspiracy-theory-minded folks. If you live in a world where everything is a conspiracy, that eventually makes you the one who determines what is true and what is not. If this is all a grand conspiracy to remove Trump; for hospital executives to get rich; for Bill Gates to control the world; for Fauci to get super rich from a vaccine, then it is the greatest hoax of all time. I mean, just think of how theses powerful few have been able to get almost every country on earth to participate in their grand scheme. It's amazing. Hats off to them for orchestrating such a grand scheme!
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Please. I would love that. That way we can see all the theories presented by the tin foil hat crowd.
 
Rain Cold said:
So for the record, it sounds like we have unanimous agreement, with the exception of far right sources (and of course, those people affiliated with the Trump administration) that hydroxychloroquine is not only ineffective as a treatment for Covid-19, but it could also be harmful and perhaps fatal as well.

Do I have that right?
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North side hospital is also using rocephin to treat Covid-19 and so far it’s helping.
 
In other news, two acquaintances (husband and wife in the mid 40s) are both hospitalized with COVID related pneumonia. The husband is improving but the wife may require a ventilator soon.

One of the teachers in our daycare who tested positive and became quite ill (not requiring hospitalization), was on the mend when she later developed pneumonia and other infections. She seems to have finally made a full recovery.

Bottom line: COVID is highly unpredictable in who it chooses to infect with serious illness. I'm not one who favors shutting down again, but I do believe that it is prudent to take any measure necessary to prevent or slow the spread. You just never know who it will choose to do serious harm to.
 
Poimen said:
In other news, two acquaintances (husband and wife in the mid 40s) are both hospitalized with COVID related pneumonia. The husband is improving but the wife may require a ventilator soon.

One of the teachers in our daycare who tested positive and became quite ill (not requiring hospitalization), was on the mend when she later developed pneumonia and other infections. She seems to have finally made a full recovery.

Bottom line: COVID is highly unpredictable in who it chooses to infect with serious illness. I'm not one who favors shutting down again, but I do believe that it is prudent to take any measure necessary to prevent or slow the spread. You just never know who it will choose to do serious harm to.
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Do you know if any of the seriously I'll had any sort of underlying conditions?
 
Rain Cold said:
Do you know if any of the seriously I'll had any sort of underlying conditions?
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Not to my knowledge but I cannot say for sure.

From my layman's perspective, it seems as though this coronavirus shares some similarities with the 1918 flu pandemic in that, just as in 1918, the virus becomes a potential pathway for secondary infections that cause the pneumonia or other respiratory problems. For years it was assumed that the 1918 pandemic was caused by bacterial pneumonia that was found in many of the deadly cases. But it was only later discovered that it was in fact a flu virus that then allowed for the secondary invaders, many of which were deadly themselves. COVID 19 has some similarities, although obviously it is not as lethal--at least not currently.
 
Poimen said:
Not to my knowledge but I cannot say for sure.

From my layman's perspective, it seems as though this coronavirus shares some similarities with the 1918 flu pandemic in that, just as in 1918, the virus becomes a potential pathway for secondary infections that cause the pneumonia or other respiratory problems. For years it was assumed that the 1918 pandemic was caused by bacterial pneumonia that was found in many of the deadly cases. But it was only later discovered that it was in fact a flu virus that then allowed for the secondary invaders, many of which were deadly themselves. COVID 19 has some similarities, although obviously it is not as lethal--at least not currently.
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What's really weird about the virus is that it seems to randomly create all kinds of other weird symptoms, from neurological, to blood clotting, etc. Would be nice to get a really good, detailed data analysis of all of this stuff.
 
Rain Cold said:
What's really weird about the virus is that it seems to randomly create all kinds of other weird symptoms, from neurological, to blood clotting, etc. Would be nice to get a really good, detailed data analysis of all of this stuff.
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From what I’ve read, the 1918 flu also left many victims with strange neurological symptoms, chief among them was Woodrow Wilson.
 
If I remember correctly, it’s likely tied to the virus attaching itself to certain brain cells.
 
tramadoc said:
Please. I would love that. That way we can see all the theories presented by the tin foil hat crowd.
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Yea like this cure Biden was talking about.
.@JoeBiden: "I had nurses at Walter Reed hospital who would bend down and whisper in my ear, go home and get me pillows. They would … actually breathe in my nostrils to make me move, to get me moving.”
 
I’m sure you have all seen this by now. Her claim: Over 350 people treated at her hospital. Diabetics, cancer patients, and people in their 90’s. She says they were all treated with Hydroxychloroquine and no one has died. She claims it can also be used as a preventative treatment. This video was flagged and removed on social media today. Why? They claim it was staged by Breitbart as partitical propaganda. However, I am of the opinion that everyone is anti Hydroxy simply because Trump was pro hydroxy early on. You won’t change my mind.

 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
I’m sure you have all seen this by now. Her claim: Over 350 people treated at her hospital. Diabetics, cancer patients, and people in their 90’s. She says they were all treated with Hydroxychloroquine and no one has died. She claims it can also be used as a preventative treatment. This video was flagged and removed on social media today. Why? They claim it was staged by Breitbart as partitical propaganda. However, I am of the opinion that everyone is anti Hydroxy simply because Trump was pro hydroxy early on. You won’t change my mind.

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She also is a strong advocate that cervical cancer is caused by "Satan's sperm". :rolleyes: Seriously. Whether or not she happens to be saying anything true about HCQ, I'm gonna pass on her "expertise".
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
I’m sure you have all seen this by now. Her claim: Over 350 people treated at her hospital. Diabetics, cancer patients, and people in their 90’s. She says they were all treated with Hydroxychloroquine and no one has died. She claims it can also be used as a preventative treatment. This video was flagged and removed on social media today. Why? They claim it was staged by Breitbart as partitical propaganda. However, I am of the opinion that everyone is anti Hydroxy simply because Trump was pro hydroxy early on. You won’t change my mind.

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More likely this whole thing was staged knowing that Facebook/Twitter would remove it, which just serves to reinforce the beliefs of the president’s core base.

Either way, if you read up on what this doctor truly believes, you’d be a fool to let her be your physician.
 
And right on cue my Facebook feed is blowing up with Breitbart story about the wicked Twitter/Facebook.
 
ontherocks said:
She also is a strong advocate that cervical cancer is caused by "Satan's sperm". :rolleyes: Seriously. Whether or not she happens to be saying anything true about HCQ, I'm gonna pass on her "expertise".
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But are her claims on hydroxychloroquine correct? That’s really all I care to know.
 
Ghost said:
My 17 year old was in direct contact (less than 6 feet of separation) and no mask with 2 different people who tested positive. About 3 weeks apart from each other

One was his swim coach the other was a friend he rode with to get pizza. He never had any sign of being sick. If he had it with no symptoms he did not spread it to anyone In our house. I can’t figure out the spread of this virus
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I was constantly around 3 family members who had it and never got sick with it back in May
To add to this I had it (the virus) but never showed symptoms, should of said that better
 
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Jimmy Hypocracy said:
But are her claims on hydroxychloroquine correct? That’s really all I care to know.
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Well there are several peer reviewed multinational studies now that would indicate she may not be correct. You can view those at NIH or PubMed. Also, I would probably wait for a more reliable source than someone who believes OBGYN issues are caused by sex with Satan's spawn to be the ace in the hole for HCQ.
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
But are her claims on hydroxychloroquine correct? That’s really all I care to know.
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I had another little talk with my sister in law few hrs ago. She is a nurse at North Side. She works on the Covid floor. It works for some but not everyone, rocephin Seems to be better.
 
It’s weird Because I’m super athletic, and never got symptoms, and I notice the athletic people that get it, never really get severe covid, like I run, constantly stay hooping, soccer All the time at Bradford park in concord, so I’m In really good shape, and I watch YT and I seem to notice these basketball players/athletes are always playing basketball at some different place but never seem to get covid during this whole thing so far
 
To my knowledge there's no such thing as a "cure" for a virus. Maybe I'm wrong. But as we were discussing earlier, once the virus infects a person, it can open the door for secondary infections. It seems beyond comprehension, to me at least, that anyone would ever think there could be a one-size fit-all "cure."

"Oh, you have COIVID. Well then, just take these meds and you'll be just fine."
 
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