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A little perspective for you this morning. CDC data from 2018 indicates that heart disease and cancer are the leading causes of death for the U.S. nearly 1,000,000 die every year. Add in diabetes, chronic lower respiratory diseases and you will see my point. Most of these afflictions kill about the same number of Americans every year. Where was the public panic over these? Why are we still allowed to stuff our faces with garbage foods? Why hasn't the government swooped in to keep us from dying from these ailments? Now overlay Covid-19 and you can see that the mortality from this virus is strongly associated with these afflictions I just named above. People afflicted with these will be most of the people dying from Covid-19. Co-morbidity shouldn't mean we shut down the economy. Brace for more dead than a usual year, for sure, but don't shut down the economy for this! Even if 2.2 million die, a large portion of those victims would likely have died within three years, anyway. We need to stop the panic and get back to work!
 
weatherfide said:
The Great Depression caused the nationalist uprising in Germany that launched hitler to power. All things are related. Without the depression, would hitler have had a platform to win support? Probably not.
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Errmm,, No, it was the sanctions placed on Germany by the Allied powers in the treaty of Versailles that led to Germany's Depression (including the loss of life and ruin from the war itself). These Sanctions, including the forfiture of valuable land to France, being enforced with armed troops from France, that directly led the Nationalist uprising (Hitler) in Germany.
 
weatherfide said:
A little perspective for you this morning. CDC data from 2018 indicates that heart disease and cancer are the leading causes of death for the U.S. nearly 1,000,000 die every year. Add in diabetes, chronic lower respiratory diseases and you will see my point. Most of these afflictions kill about the same number of Americans every year. Where was the public panic over these? Why are we still allowed to stuff our faces with garbage foods? Why hasn't the government swooped in to keep us from dying from these ailments? Now overlay Covid-19 and you can see that the mortality from this virus is strongly associated with these afflictions I just named above. People afflicted with these will be most of the people dying from Covid-19. Co-morbidity shouldn't mean we shut down the economy. Brace for more dead than a usual year, for sure, but don't shut down the economy for this! Even if 2.2 million die, a large portion of those victims would likely have died within three years, anyway. We need to stop the panic and get back to work!
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Except the coronavirus packs "a year's worth of risk into a few weeks", these chronic conditions are spread out over much, much longer periods of time, we know how to treat and prevent them (healthy diet, exercise, medicine, etc), and they're not a new existential threat to the US that adds much greater strain than what already exists in the healthcare system. The coronavirus is thus the "straw that breaks the camel's back".
 
Well we are getting low on baby wipes and no stores around here have them in stock because people are buying them and using in place of toilet paper... and amazon canceled our subscribe and save shipment because they're out right now of all baby wipes too... so I manage to find a reasonably priced box of unopened ones on eBay. This is crazy...
 
weatherfide said:
A little perspective for you this morning. CDC data from 2018 indicates that heart disease and cancer are the leading causes of death for the U.S. nearly 1,000,000 die every year. Add in diabetes, chronic lower respiratory diseases and you will see my point. Most of these afflictions kill about the same number of Americans every year. Where was the public panic over these? Why are we still allowed to stuff our faces with garbage foods? Why hasn't the government swooped in to keep us from dying from these ailments? Now overlay Covid-19 and you can see that the mortality from this virus is strongly associated with these afflictions I just named above. People afflicted with these will be most of the people dying from Covid-19. Co-morbidity shouldn't mean we shut down the economy. Brace for more dead than a usual year, for sure, but don't shut down the economy for this! Even if 2.2 million die, a large portion of those victims would likely have died within three years, anyway. We need to stop the panic and get back to work!
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This is up there with dewpoint dan and Mathew70. Congratulations on joining the club.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Except the coronavirus packs "a year's worth of risk into a few weeks", these chronic conditions are spread out over much, much longer periods of time, we know how to treat and prevent them (healthy diet, exercise, medicine, etc), and they're not a new existential threat to the US that adds much greater strain than what already exists in the healthcare system. The coronavirus is thus the "straw that breaks the camel's back".
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These chronic health conditions like heart attack, stroke, diabetes, etc. can be thought of as "popcorn" summertime thunderstorms, which in their own right, are in many ways dangerous and over long periods of time, provide the main source of rainfall in the summer to the SE US, however we generally know how to contend and prepare for them. The coronavirus oth, is equivalent to a large, lumbering hurricane that provides an entire season or year's worth of rainfall in a matter of a few days, often decimating the hardest hit areas. Sure, airmass thunderstorms occur much more frequently, collectively provide more rainfall over time than hurricanes, and will affect more people, but the existential threat and rate of rainfall a hurricane provides completely overloads the local earth system's capacity to contain the rainfall in much of the same way coronavirus is doing to our healthcare system in many of the hardest hit areas of the US.
 
smast16 said:
He didn't send the first tweet and then go chase, the opposite Look at the time stamps! He chased, and the TWO days later tweeted out about Quarantines.

This post is misleading for clicks.
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How exactly does the sequence of events make this individual any less hypocritical towards storm chasers, given that he actually chased in a very densely populated area within a few days of said statement?
 
Webberweather53 said:
More like cherry picking at its finest.

It really doesn't matter what order the events occurred in because in the end, he's still a massive hypocrite regardless of whether the chicken came before the egg or not.




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So, you're admitting you cherry picked data, to present a false narrative to generate 'Likes'?

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smast16 said:
So, you're admitting you cherry picked data, to present a false narrative to generate 'Likes'?

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Let me know when you're actually gonna stay on topic in the thread today & not overload it w/ baseless personal attacks towards other posters with whom you don't agree with.
 
Webberweather53 said:
How exactly does the sequence of events make this individual any less hypocritical towards storm chasers, given that he actually chased in a very densely populated area within a few days of said statement?
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Because in the original post you presented it as if he first threatened to track people and then proceeded to storm chase right after that when in reality that's not how it happened. Smast16 was just pointing out that the sequence described was not accurately depicted is all.
 
Broken024 said:
This is up there with dewpoint dan and Mathew70. Congratulations on joining the club.
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Yeah, it was a little over the top but I get the point. A lot of the deaths are being reported as covid 19 deaths when a lot of them it was probably just a contributor. To what degree is another question.
 
snowlover91 said:
Because in the original post you presented it as if he first threatened to track people and then proceeded to storm chase right after that when in reality that's not how it happened. Smast16 was just pointing out that the sequence described was not accurately depicted is all.
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How exactly does the sequence of events not make the dude look like he's a complete hypocrite? That's really the point here, not some cherry-pick of my tweet. It also could have been pointed out w/ more civility but I expected nothing less from this thread.
 
Webberweather53 said:
How exactly does the sequence of events not make the dude look like he's a completely hypocrite? That's really the point here, not some cherry-pick of my tweet. It also could have been pointed out w/ more civility but I expected nothing less from this thread.
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I'm not trying to say if it's hypocritical or not of the storm chaser, just that the presentation of the sequence of events was different from how they happened is all. I don't really follow storm chasers or Twitter so I don't really have an opinion on the storm chaser one way or another.
 
snowlover91 said:
I'm not trying to say if it's hypocritical or not of the storm chaser, just that the presentation of the sequence of events was different from how they happened is all. I don't really follow storm chasers or Twitter so I don't really have an opinion on the storm chaser one way or another.
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To be fair, I don’t think Webb was presenting it as if those tweets were in chronological order. I knew they weren’t because I paid attention to the dates.
 
snowlover91 said:
I'm not trying to say if it's hypocritical or not of the storm chaser, just that the presentation of the sequence of events was different from how they happened is all. I don't really follow storm chasers or Twitter so I don't really have an opinion on the storm chaser one way or another.
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But what is the point of bringing this up in the first place other than to argue for the sake of arguing if the point of my tweet was that these 2 events together were in fact hypocritical & that changing their order does basically nothing to alter how his statement is perceived following them? Sheesh...
 
One thing I can share is that all the hospitals we are working in have created additional ICU space in the weeks leading up to this. I assume that others in the area have so while they can still be overwhelmed the statistics showing ICU beds in the Atlanta area are not taking that into account and the numbers can add up to be quite substantial from what I've seen personally.
 
weatherfide said:
A little perspective for you this morning. CDC data from 2018 indicates that heart disease and cancer are the leading causes of death for the U.S. nearly 1,000,000 die every year. Add in diabetes, chronic lower respiratory diseases and you will see my point. Most of these afflictions kill about the same number of Americans every year. Where was the public panic over these? Why are we still allowed to stuff our faces with garbage foods? Why hasn't the government swooped in to keep us from dying from these ailments? Now overlay Covid-19 and you can see that the mortality from this virus is strongly associated with these afflictions I just named above. People afflicted with these will be most of the people dying from Covid-19. Co-morbidity shouldn't mean we shut down the economy. Brace for more dead than a usual year, for sure, but don't shut down the economy for this! Even if 2.2 million die, a large portion of those victims would likely have died within three years, anyway. We need to stop the panic and get back to work!
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Yes but those diseases happen over time and with variation. Those continue to happen along now with Corona patients who would be coming in at a rapid pace to many hospitals across the country. Hospitals get food and then people start choosing who dies. That’s what we want to avoid
 
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Webberweather53 said:
But what is the point of bringing this up in the first place other than to argue for the sake of arguing if the point of my tweet was that these 2 events together were in fact hypocritical & that changing their order does basically nothing to alter how his statement is perceived following them? Sheesh...
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I honestly didn't notice the difference in time stamps on them until it was pointed out. From reading the way it was initially written it sounded to me like the guy first told people not to storm chase and then he went out and did it after warning people not to chase. It's just helpful context but not a big deal imo.
 
First case of corona confirmed in Wilkes today. I don’t follow the numbers anymore when your told to not get tested if your symptoms are just mild. Many Many people have it.
 
Need to reinvent the curve to only show severe symptoms or deaths if the public is told to not get tested.
 
Keep a close watch on any credit lines you have.

My Apple ID associated card would not work this morning. I called and they slashed the credit limit half to what it initially was and put it well under my current balance. They said it was due to risks in the currently economic climate.

Never been late and responsible credit rating.

They will cut you off with no notification and warning.
 
snowlover91 said:
Well we are getting low on baby wipes and no stores around here have them in stock because people are buying them and using in place of toilet paper... and amazon canceled our subscribe and save shipment because they're out right now of all baby wipes too... so I manage to find a reasonably priced box of unopened ones on eBay. This is crazy...
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Yes same I found dollar store and the higher priced publix was a good find. Lucked up yesterday and found a huge box of dipers at walmart yesterday. I hope this will get us to the point of potty trained!
 
All it takes is lessening the restrictions and BOOM we see the curve spike 1000%. This was according to the whole house briefing Sunday evening with the CDC. It’s literally a ticking time bomb as we wait for a cure.
 
While the lower numbers look good also keep in mind they have cut back on test and the backlog of existing test is huge at the moment with literally 10's of thousands of pending test....so we may have hit the upper end of what a daily number increase will look like simply based on what the current capabilities are to produce test results.
 
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