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Webberweather53 said:
Basically what you're saying is we should wait until the athletes start falling dead from heart attacks to actually take any action to protect them from well established and reported post covid-19 ailments. It's the equivalent of saying we shouldn't be prepared for a hurricane until one actually hits us because there hasn't been any yet this season.

Do you actually know what the word precaution means? A measure taken in advance to prevent something dangerous, unpleasant, or inconvenient from happening.

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I can see where you'd feel that way, but lets be honest, College's and Universities aren't concerned for the health and safety of the players. I mean look at CTE.

Lets all just be honest, they only cancelled it out of fear of public opinion and liability. Imagine if (or when) that first football player at a school contracts Covid from another player, and passes away. The public fallout from that could scare away even the hardiest donors, and that's what terrifies these schools. It's not their health.

And that doesn't include the lawsuits from the family that would be sure to come.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Basically what you're saying is we should wait until the athletes start falling dead from heart attacks to actually take any action to protect them from well established and reported post covid-19 ailments. It's the equivalent of saying we shouldn't be prepared for a hurricane until one actually hits us because there hasn't been any yet this season.

Do you actually know what the word precaution means? A measure taken in advance to prevent something dangerous, unpleasant, or inconvenient from happening.

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I simply stated that there have been thousands of athletes across the globe who have returned to training and competition without any, to my knowledge, fatalities related to undetected heart conditions post-COVID. If you have information to the contrary then feel free to correct me.

I'm sorry if my statement doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to advance.
 
smast16 said:
I can see where you'd feel that way, but lets be honest, College's and Universities aren't concerned for the health and safety of the players. I mean look at CTE.

Lets all just be honest, they only cancelled it out of fear of public opinion and liability. Imagine if (or when) that first football player at a school contracts Covid from another player, and passes away. The public fallout from that could scare away even the hardiest donors, and that's what terrifies these schools. It's not their health.

And that doesn't include the lawsuits from the family that would be sure to come.
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This I completely agree with, especially when it comes to the NCAA. The sanctioning body of college athletics reeks of corruption and only cares about getting their money
 
Uncwmark said:
I simply stated that there have been thousands of athletes across the globe who have returned to training and competition without any, to my knowledge, fatalities related to undetected heart conditions post-COVID. If you have information to the contrary then feel free to correct me.

I'm sorry if my statement doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to advance.
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There's no narrative here, just why are you against schools taking a legitimately viable precaution for something that's extremely prevalent in so many "recovered" covid-19 patients and being reaffirmed by medical professionals like @Jon is beyond me and just downright incompetent.
 
Webberweather53 said:
There's no narrative here, just why are you against schools taking a legitimately viable precaution for something that's extremely prevalent in so many "recovered" covid-19 patients and being reaffirmed by medical professionals like @Jon is beyond me and just downright incompetent.
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My thing is why cancel sports but still have on campus activities?
 
SD said:
My thing is why cancel sports but still have on campus activities?
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Based off what I've seen in at least Georgia, plenty probably won't or they'll be very limited. It's already easy to flip to all online outside of lab/internship/clinicals with college because college already teaches several classes online, so it would not surprise me if many eventually go that way after you get students on campus.

Quite a bit of Georgia is already playing the tap dance game in elementary/middle/high of "oh we're going to be online, oh let's go in person", then in the cases where that game hasn't happened yet, hundreds of students and their families are apparently already having to quarantine, with schools that didn't want to yet going virtual for at least a couple days and in that group, it's not as easy to go online. Imagine college where it's easier.
 
Poimen said:
Exactly. If the athletes want to play then let them play. Give them and their families the facts, but let them decide if they think it’s worth the risk.
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Only issue with that is that if enough players opt out you can't have a full team and can't play anyway. I'm not a sports fan at all but that's just my thought so idk how they'd cope otherwise.
 
Poimen said:
Exactly. If the athletes want to play then let them play. Give them and their families the facts, but let them decide if they think it’s worth the risk.
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I get the precaution side of it but it's a tough pill for me to say come live in dorms, go to class, share living space, party but them sports they will get you
 
When you're talking about college football players and them possibly opting out, remember the age group and how people that age can feel (invincible), even when you remove discussion on the attitude you've seen in the southeast US.

Suppose it's also a good time to bring up again that the NCAA doesn't have a say with what college football does like March Madness. If they did, it'd likely be universally cancelled. Since they don't, you have multiple conferences doing their own thing, even if the journey leads to us not seeing any football until fall 2021.
 
Webberweather53 said:
There's no narrative here, just why are you against schools taking a legitimately viable precaution for something that's extremely prevalent in so many "recovered" covid-19 patients and being reaffirmed by medical professionals like @Jon is beyond me and just downright incompetent.
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I'm not against viable precautions.. to the contrary, I mentioned I supported the protocols being proposed by the Big 12 in conjunction with conducting athletic events. My point, which has been echoed by many others on this board (though, clearly, we're not as intelligent or as enlightened as you :rolleyes:), is that if university campuses are open to students (they are), and athletes wish to play knowing the "risks", and reasonable protocols can be maintained, then why can't you conduct athletic events... when those same athletic events are currently be conducted elsewhere in the country (albeit in a 'professional' manner)?
 
Uncwmark said:
I'm not against viable precautions.. to the contrary, I mentioned I supported the protocols being proposed by the Big 12 in conjunction with conducting athletic events. My point, which has been echoed by many others on this board (though, clearly, we're not as intelligent or as enlightened as you :rolleyes:), is that if university campuses are open to students (they are), and athletes wish to play knowing the "risks", and reasonable protocols can be maintained, then why can't you conduct athletic events... when those same athletic events are currently be conducted elsewhere in the country (albeit in a 'professional' manner)?
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The obvious reason that you can't seem to understand is those other sports such as the NHL, NBA, etc are in a "bubble" with extreme restrictions on where they can go, who they can interact with, etc while they're playing, whereas college athletes would not be. Pretty big, glaring difference there.

As for me suggesting you're somehow less enlightened or intelligent, I strongly recommend dropping the strawmen, ad hominem attacks.
 
Webberweather53 said:
The obvious reason that you can't seem to understand is those other sports such as the NHL, NBA, etc are in a "bubble" with extreme restrictions on where they can go, who they can interact with, etc while they're playing, whereas college athletes would not be. Pretty big, glaring difference there.

As for me suggesting you're somehow less enlightened or intelligent, I strongly recommend dropping the strawmen, ad hominem attacks.
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Are we seeing a slew of athletes dropping from Covid heart-related issues? I know someone asked this uptrend, but I don't think I saw an answer. And I haven't heard of this happening at scale.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Big issue with cases dropping is that we're testing less, substantially at that.
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Are we testing less because there are less sick people to test? Or are the same type of sick people, that were being tested en masse several weeks ago, not being tested now?
 
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