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CoolNights said:
Interesting that you haven't mentioned direct contributors to actual deaths--five democrats governors who sent infected patients into nursing homes killing thousands.
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It's interesting to note that even still New York has almost a quarter of all the deaths

The top 5 states are all blue states too

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Brent said:
And how many die from obesity and everything that comes with it

But I don't see people upset about all the unhealthy food you can buy
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But some governors/mayors are starting to ban or attempting to ban or limit certain foods. It's why I'm always a skeptic when government starts mandating anything and for the record, I wear my mask when I'm around others, not because big brother tells me too but because I've got some personal responsibility. We don't like government trying to mandate morality but they better dang sure mandate responsibility.
 
CoolNights said:
This isn't small pox, Ebola, tuberculosis, polio or even the 1912 flu that killed over 70 million.
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Just because something isn’t the worst disease you can think of, doesn’t mean it’s not significant or impactful. The friends and family I’ve watched suffer and one die (32 year old male, no known conditions) would likely have appreciated an opportunity to not have fought the disease. But, we can’t compare how many died with this yet to how many died with those others you mentioned, cause we are no where near done. If you would like to revisit this in 18 months we can discuss total deaths. But really, the fact that a friend is dead and could have not been is the number I’ll care most about.
 
metwannabe said:
But some governors/mayors are starting to ban or attempting to ban or limit certain foods. It's why I'm always a skeptic when government starts mandating anything and for the record, I wear my mask when I'm around others, not because big brother tells me too but because I've got some personal responsibility. We don't like government trying to mandate morality but they better dang sure mandate responsibility.
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It's an interesting conversation right. I am ok with mask mandates but wouldn't be ok if they started dabbling with food, hell I think they are too stiff on alcohol and tobacco products. Maybe I'm a weirdo
 
ontherocks said:
Just because something isn’t the worst disease you can think of, doesn’t mean it’s not significant or impactful. The friends and family I’ve watched suffer and one die (32 year old male, no known conditions) would likely have appreciated an opportunity to not have fought the disease. But, we can’t compare how many died with this yet to how many died with those others you mentioned, cause we are no where near done. If you would like to revisit this in 18 months we can discuss total deaths. But really, the fact that a friend is dead and could have not been is the number I’ll care most about.
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Impactful events take place all the time sorry to say, but that doesn't mean I have the right to close down businesses and create 30 million job loses either.
 
SD said:
It's an interesting conversation right. I am ok with mask mandates but wouldn't be ok if they started dabbling with food, hell I think they are too stiff on alcohol and tobacco products. Maybe I'm a weirdo
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Naw, your just a freedom nut and didn't know it ;)
 
CoolNights said:
Impactful events take place all the time sorry to say, but that doesn't mean I have the right to close down businesses and create 30 million job loses either.
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Thought we were talking about masks.....no one said close anything down. The discussion was about personal responsibility in order to continue to protect safety while keeping things open and functioning.
 
ontherocks said:
Thought we were talking about masks.....no one said close anything down. The discussion was about personal responsibility in order to continue to protect safety while keeping things open and functioning.
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We're talking about a social and health postures toward impact events. We're ultimately trying to balance safety within a free society.
 
Ugh, weekly averaged deaths have unfortunately increased to their highest levels since mid June in the US. I don't envision this situation getting any better anytime soon. :(

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Brent said:
It's interesting to note that even still New York has almost a quarter of all the deaths

The top 5 states are all blue states too

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Pretty sure there are tons of reasons other than politics for that.

1) first states hit hard without as much knowledge how to treat it
2) first states hit hard overwhelming hospitals and staff
3) population density
4) public transit
5) international travel bringing it in from every direction making it hard to contact trace and isolate
 
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