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California County that reopened early is the only one in the state without a Covid-19 case due to testing migrant workers coming into the county, and providing free tests and PPE to everyone that ones it.
 

But look at the actual numbers. They peaked and settled down in the 10s to 100s of cases per day. We never stopped being below at least 18K PER DAY after our peak and now we're on our way to 100K a day. Day and night if you look at the numbers.
 
Florida really skewed the #s.

I personally don't understand why the positive test percentage is such a big deal. Can someone splain?
9.4% looks better then 100%. From what I can tell these labs in Florida didn’t add the negative test. So it’s kinda fake news to make the areas seem worse.
It makes the percentage high by omitting the negative tests but the only thing that matters are if the positive number of cases is accurate? Is it?

positive cases remain the same. The blaze is lol
 
But look at the actual numbers. They peaked and settled down in the 10s to 100s of cases per day. We never stopped being below at least 18K PER DAY after our peak and now we're on our way to 100K a day. Day and night if you look at the numbers.
I know it’s still not comparable, but we have far great population than those countries
 
Per my SARS-COV-2 antibody test (I just wanted to get it for fun on Monday and it was based off the results I just got which was + ) I had asymptomatic coronavirus back when my parents were sick with it in May along with my grandpa, talk about being blessed, really glad I didn’t get no symptoms other than a stuffy nose that felt like allergies
 
But look at the actual numbers. They peaked and settled down in the 10s to 100s of cases per day. We never stopped being below at least 18K PER DAY after our peak and now we're on our way to 100K a day. Day and night if you look at the numbers.

It's apples and oranges. The comparison is between four countries with mostly uniform climates and seasonal migration/travelling patterns, and the diverse landscape that features anything from tropical to tundra climates and year-round migratory/traveling patterns among workers in the United States. The five worst states right now are Texas, Arizona, California, Georgia and Florida. While cases rose in the first three states, we also saw cases rise across the border in the climatologically similar areas of Northern Mexico, in addition to other Central American countries with climates similar to the epicenter in South Florida. There are also many counties along the border that are considered Covid-19 hotspots. However, I don't know how much weight to put on climate.

The one common denominator of all five states is that they contain either large migrant communities and numerous migratory routes that pass through a significant number of Covid hotspots throughout the southeast, west, and midwest. In the top 15 states with the most new confirmed cases, all of them contain numerous reports of Covid-19 spread in rural communities with farmhouses that employee migratory farmhands. This is the case in Russia and many eastern European states with rises in cases. While the wave that hit New York City and New Jersey can mostly be traced back to travelers in Europe, a very significant portion can be traced back to these migrant communities and hubs. There's an obvious need to test these workers and provide them with PPE, as they are in low-income, highly dense areas with limited access to hospitals. Anyway, since there are multiple growing seasons, we basically have migratory workers moving around the country throughout the year whereas Japan, Israel, and other have specific windows for farming. Even Germany just had an incident within the last two weeks where 1,500 migrant workers had tested positive for Covid-19 in Chicken factory. I think more weight needs to be put on this factor, as it explains a number of discrepencies in data such as vast majority of hispanic patients and positive cases in majority African American and white communities that sometimes exceed 65%.
 
I know it’s still not comparable, but we have far great population than those countries

Far greater populations, more diverse communities, various seasons and work schedules, multiple climates, an incredible amount of transitory hubs, numerous airports, huge borders, etc. etc, etc. The climactic difference between a country like India and Japan determines their influenza season - India during tropical rainy season and temperate Japan in the Winter.
 
Arizona reports 3,257 new cases and 97 new deaths.
I personally don't understand why the positive test percentage is such a big deal. Can someone splain?
Im in the same boat as you. I get it,the shutdown,bend the curve,surge on hospitals. We did that. Now all I hear MSM is pos cases, thats it. Like its the only metric that matters. We shutdown to not overrun hospitals, not keep posotive cases down. Like the poster above, we all are gonna have a run in with this most likely. Most of us probably already have and dont even know it. Im all about safeguarding life if elderly, pre existing condition folks. High risk. But we cant stop living and working in order to do so

BREAKING:

Oxford univ is reporting tonight vaccine will be done with human test in days. Warp speed at its best. The partnership thing Trumps team has reached out,coordinated. Developers are rushing and will have vaccine ready by fall. British company working with us. Astazeneca ready to make 2 billion doses.
 
Starting to worry here as I have some mild covid like symptoms. Raw sore throat feeling but nothing terrible. Just bad enough to worry me. We've had a few cases at work and now the exposure at my wifes work so maybe it's all in my head? My wife did look at my throat and said its red. Perhaps I'll go through the drive thru test sites tomorrow if nothing gets better.

This virus sucks. These vague symptoms are making it hard to sort through what's really going on.

It’s not in your head or allergies, that’s what gets people in trouble. Trust your body and mind!

I see Covid patients every week. The most common symptoms I see are:
1) Sore/itchy throat
2) headache
3) fatigue
4) sinus congestion or itchy nose
5) fever (low grade 99-100F)
6) cough

In order of most common to least common. To me the big 3 are throat, headache, fatigue.

If ANYONE reading this has anything weird going on with their throat or nose, get tested...you probably have CV. People tend to think it’s something else if it’s so mild, but mild illness is very common here. The last thing you want to do is infect a loved one.
 
BREAKING:

Oxford univ is reporting tonight vaccine will be done with human test in days. Warp speed at its best. The partnership thing Trumps team has reached out,coordinated. Developers are rushing and will have vaccine ready by fall. British company working with us. Astazeneca ready to make 2 billion doses.

The AstraZeneca vaccine makes the most sense to me. The Moderna stuff seems like PR fluff, although I do believe their vaccine will be approved as will maybe a handful. This isn’t new for AstraZeneca and they have the means and resources to do this right and get it done quick. Moderna hasn’t brought a product to market before.

This is a good article put out today on AstraZeneca and the effort. http://ooc.bz/l/56614
 
Seems like I read somewhere that medical folks think we'll all eventually get this virus. That's scary. I guess that's why keeping the curve down is important; but it means we'll all be part of that curve in the future.

From day one I believe the estimate was 50-80% of the population would get it. And that estimate was made when there were like 1,000 US cases...so far seems to be heading in the right direction.
 
Interesting to note that New York is 1 away from 1000 new cases, which is higher than daily cases for the last ten days.
 
Per my SARS-COV-2 antibody test (I just wanted to get it for fun on Monday and it was based off the results I just got which was + ) I had asymptomatic coronavirus back when my parents were sick with it in May along with my grandpa, talk about being blessed, really glad I didn’t get no symptoms other than a stuffy nose that felt like allergies
Your basically invincible now!
 
The AstraZeneca vaccine makes the most sense to me. The Moderna stuff seems like PR fluff, although I do believe their vaccine will be approved as will maybe a handful. This isn’t new for AstraZeneca and they have the means and resources to do this right and get it done quick. Moderna hasn’t brought a product to market before.

This is a good article put out today on AstraZeneca and the effort. http://ooc.bz/l/56614
So once human test trials are done, pass the mustard, its off to the races, production? Is this how it works?
 
So once human test trials are done, pass the mustard, its off to the races, production? Is this how it works?

No the vaccines are already preemptively being produced; so once the results are finalized and safety data is finished, the doses are done and ready to ship for administration. This goes for most vaccines being investigated, they’re already producing them.
 
Per my SARS-COV-2 antibody test (I just wanted to get it for fun on Monday and it was based off the results I just got which was + ) I had asymptomatic coronavirus back when my parents were sick with it in May along with my grandpa, talk about being blessed, really glad I didn’t get no symptoms other than a stuffy nose that felt like allergies
How did you get this test? I want to take one for myself. About 20 percent of our daycare staff/children have tested positive. I’d be shocked if I didn’t have it and remained asymptomatic.
 
Both the Lancet and New England Journal of Medicine studies that reported higher death rates from patients treated with hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine due to the bad data. I said it when these studies came out. I've known about this drug for over a decade, and considering past research, those studies were (are) deeply disturbing. Pretty obvious that the two medical journals put out false information for purely political reasons, and the company that analyzed the faulty hospital data will not release the third-party that provided them the data. The doctors involved should lose their medical license, and charges should be brought under 18 USC 1038: False information and Hoaxes until they provide the information of the company that provided the false data.
 
I'm just not understanding the many researchers that continue to downplay Covid-19 mutations that have been prevalent for months. How does the infection rate not make a virus more dangerous or a patient sicker? You basically have a dominant strain that was instrumental in the rise of Covid cases around Europe and NYC called D614G, which has been discussed on this forum since early April (before it was named). The virus that came over from China via the west coast was a joke, and we could the US could have skated if we had only shut down travel to Europe sooner. The researcher in the article states that this might complicate the vaccine despite multiple studies clearly stating that the E Protein will be targeted. Then I read that this is a study funded by the Gates Foundation - Immunotherapy, and it all makes sense.

Everybody has already moved on to the next thing. Past studies of influenza pandemics seem to be a great starting point for current research, and we're starting to fill some of the wholes in regards to virus spread that were left open in past pandemics.
 
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