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If Herd immunity goes out the window, then we shall see Spain, Italy, Uk on the rise again soon enough, along with New York, New Jersey, and the rest of the NorthEast.

Yep and then we're going to be watching, and hoping that either because of the T-cells that were built up, they don't get as sick, or the virus is mutating to be weaker.

@metwannabe had a good point, I thought the hospitals in my area didn't look totally awful, but others are saying the ICUs are all full. I have to wonder if it's because of other things as well. These are a couple big hospitals and likely serve rural areas as well... Either way, I won't know for 100% unless I'm there.
 
Starting to worry here as I have some mild covid like symptoms. Raw sore throat feeling but nothing terrible. Just bad enough to worry me. We've had a few cases at work and now the exposure at my wifes work so maybe it's all in my head? My wife did look at my throat and said its red. Perhaps I'll go through the drive thru test sites tomorrow if nothing gets better.

This virus sucks. These vague symptoms are making it hard to sort through what's really going on.
 
Starting to worry here as I have some mild covid like symptoms. Raw sore throat feeling but nothing terrible. Just bad enough to worry me. We've had a few cases at work and now the exposure at my wifes work so maybe it's all in my head? My wife did look at my throat and said its red. Perhaps I'll go through the drive thru test sites tomorrow if nothing gets better.

This virus sucks. These vague symptoms are making it hard to sort through what's really going on.
Seems like I read somewhere that medical folks think we'll all eventually get this virus. That's scary. I guess that's why keeping the curve down is important; but it means we'll all be part of that curve in the future.
 
Not if you believe the studies out of Spain and UK that shows immunity collapses after a couple months and is weaker in cases of minor infections.

Herd immunity is looking more and more doubtful.

That isn't a surprise. It's basically just supporting the previous studies of coronavirus, influenza and rhinovirus There are many instances where a patient can recover from virus (colds, flu) with less severe symptom, and then relapse if they've compromised their immune system (i.e. alcohol consumption). In regards to immunizations, various patients are subject to combination vaccines or multiple inoculations spread out over two months for various viruses, and a first time flu shot patient is supposed to receive the vaccine twice within several months. Even allergy shots are given over a six week period so a persons immune system can adjust to greater allergen loads over time.

The real scary part part for populations that have been sheltering from Covid-19 is that they aren't being exposed to any of the more common, seasonal viruses, which may be more severe then previous years. There also seems to be a trend of more diverse influenza viruses around the world, and scientists are concerned that some of these strains will be able to evade immune response. Adding to the chaos is the lower influenza immunizations in Europe and the United States, which makes sense considering the limited access to Doctor offices during the pandemic.
 
Yeah this is just terrible, this is Trump trying to control the information......hospitals need to ignore this.
See story above. Whole collection of data, to make annalysis is cobulated. Not intenional by anyone. But its so inconsistent and skewed. Hospitilazations,actual causes of death, posotive test. These metrics cant be used to annalyze just how serious or laize fare the virus has become.
 
Seems like I read somewhere that medical folks think we'll all eventually get this virus. That's scary. I guess that's why keeping the curve down is important; but it means we'll all be part of that curve in the future.
I had a visit (regular check-up) with my PCP yesterday and we had an extended convo about it. To paraphrase: COVID-19 is not going anywhere anytime soon; 98% +/- of us will not die from it; I have some underlying conditions but he's not worried about me (being 47 and not 77); thinks this will be around in the future like the flu and we will co-exist with it when a tried and true vaccination becomes available.
 
See story above. Whole collection of data, to make annalysis is cobulated. Not intenional by anyone. But its so inconsistent and skewed. Hospitilazations,actual causes of death, posotive test. These metrics cant be used to annalyze just how serious or laize fare the virus has become.

I personally don't understand why the positive test percentage is such a big deal. Can someone splain?
 
9.4% looks better then 100%. From what I can tell these labs in Florida didn’t add the negative test. So it’s kinda fake news to make the areas seem worse.

It makes the percentage high by omitting the negative tests but the only thing that matters are if the positive number of cases is accurate? Is it?
 
Why are we the only country that has a hard time accepting this virus is a real threat and not going anywhere? This country is the only place you have people openly questioning weather masks work or if the virus is actually dangerous. We look silly and it gets worse with each day.
We are probably not the only country that questions everything but thankfully we have that right in America.
 
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