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Well masks are now mandated here so we'll see what happens in a couple weeks

This can't be indefinite though
They are here too but there is still a good % not wearing them. Regardless at this point whatever its so political and everyone is so set in their own ideals its not going away and sports are probably going to end up doa for the fall.
 
Didn't Fauci later admit that he discouraged masks early on to keep the supply from dwindling for healthcare?

I understand his reasoning, but on the other hand it doesn’t make sense. For instance PPE was in short supply, but if cloth masks work like they are pushing them, wouldn’t the risk of running even lower on PPE by telling the public to make cloth masks be worth it in the end because less cases equal less PPE needed by hospitals?
 
Current stats for NC by age:

0-17 make up 11% of the cases, 0% of deaths.

18-24 make up 13% of the cases, 0% of deaths.

25-49 make up the largest group of cases with 45%, but only 5% of the deaths.

50-64 make up 19% of the cases, 15% of deaths.

65-74 make up 6% of the cases, 20% of the deaths.

75+ make up 6% of the cases, but account for 59% of the deaths. o_O
 
Current stats for NC by age:

0-17 make up 11% of the cases, 0% of deaths.

18-24 make up 13% of the cases, 0% of deaths.

25-49 make up the largest group of cases with 45%, but only 5% of the deaths.

50-64 make up 19% of the cases, 15% of deaths.

65-74 make up 6% of the cases, 20% of the deaths.

75+ make up 6% of the cases, but account for 59% of the deaths. o_O

No surprise to me there pre existing conditions is playing a big role and well that usually is worse with age
 
No surprise to me there pre existing conditions is playing a big role and well that usually is worse with age

RE: Case % w/age
Not to mention 25-49 group is the largest group in terms of age range and it's not even close. Simple math would hypothesize it would account for the most cases. That's 24 years. I'd like to know if anyone has broken it down even further, i.e. (25-35, 36-49). Very interesting.
 
So the survival rate in the US is 98.54%? I’ll take it.
According to the CDC’s estimate, it is 99.74% (accounting for asymptotic cases). It is almost certainly higher than 99% and likely 99.5%, in any case. Of course, 0.5% of 50% of the US population is still close to a million people, so it’s not trivial.
 
Not to minimize, but statistically the deaths have really not been bad. in GA
That’s somewhat surprising to me because there are a lot of people here in Georgia with underlying health issues such as diabetes and high blood pressure. Plus our healthcare system in Georgia outside of Atlanta isn’t the greatest
 
I'd like for an anti-masker to help me understand why wearing a mask isn't of benefit. It seems like just basic logic that if you have a sickness and you can prevent the expulsion of droplets from your mouth and nose, then you have just reduced the primary mode of transference substantially.

I understand that certain masks don't filter out aerosolized particles, so if we're dealing with an aerosolized virus and the virus is present where you are wearing your mask, then you may still get it. But I'm not sure that is the case with Covid.

Also, I understand that people touch their mask and face. But if the primary mode of transmission is droplets in the air or on surfaces, and those that would spread droplets (the infected ones) are wearing a mask, then the chances of someone else contacting the virus via their hands and spreading it to their face would seem to go down substantially, because there would be so many fewer contaminating droplets.

Logically, masks make sense and seem like they would really help to slow the spread of a non-aerosolized virus. Even if it is aerosolized, they still seem like they would help.

Why am I wrong?
 
That’s somewhat surprising to me because there are a lot of people here in Georgia with underlying health issues such as diabetes and high blood pressure. Plus our healthcare system in Georgia outside of Atlanta isn’t the greatest

If you'd consider Emory (or Grady) to be #1, I'd consider MCG/AU Health to be right behind them at #2 and close to me at least imo. They developed the state wide system for COVID testing and are considered to be one of the best teaching hospitals in the country.

You would indeed think there would be bigger issues because of the rural hospital closures. Basically at least at this moment if you're close to one of the major cities in Georgia, you're "probably" fine at least at this particular moment unless Atlanta's situation is worse than what's going on here. If not, then it might be a coin toss depending on where you're talking about.


64 may seem like a lot for one hospital, but context says it might be in multiple hospitals (There's two University Hospitals and the wrdw page is not separating them). Either way, they say they're okay for now, but if these massive/multiple hospitals get taken to their knees along with Atlanta's, the whole state is completely *)#$)#($#)$*#)(*.
 
If you'd consider Emory (or Grady) to be #1, I'd consider MCG/AU Health to be right behind them at #2 and close to me at least imo. They developed the state wide system for COVID testing and are considered to be one of the best teaching hospitals in the country.

You would indeed think there would be bigger issues because of the rural hospital closures. Basically at least at this moment if you're close to one of the major cities in Georgia, you're "probably" fine at least at this particular moment unless Atlanta's situation is worse than what's going on here. If not, then it might be a coin toss depending on where you're talking about.


64 may seem like a lot for one hospital, but context says it might be in multiple hospitals (There's two University Hospitals and the wrdw page is not separating them). Either way, they say they're okay for now, but if these massive/multiple hospitals get taken to their knees along with Atlanta's, the whole state is completely *)#$)#($#)$*#)(*.
Yea that’s what I meant, totally worded it wrong. Didn’t mean for it sound like I’m saying our hospitals suck, but more so of the lack of them in rural Georgia where we’ve had some of the highest numbers outside metro Atlanta.
 
I'd like for an anti-masker to help me understand why wearing a mask isn't of benefit. It seems like just basic logic that if you have a sickness and you can prevent the expulsion of droplets from your mouth and nose, then you have just reduced the primary mode of transference substantially.

I understand that certain masks don't filter out aerosolized particles, so if we're dealing with an aerosolized virus and the virus is present where you are wearing your mask, then you may still get it. But I'm not sure that is the case with Covid.

Also, I understand that people touch their mask and face. But if the primary mode of transmission is droplets in the air or on surfaces, and those that would spread droplets (the infected ones) are wearing a mask, then the chances of someone else contacting the virus via their hands and spreading it to their face would seem to go down substantially, because there would be so many fewer contaminating droplets.

Logically, masks make sense and seem like they would really help to slow the spread of a non-aerosolized virus. Even if it is aerosolized, they still seem like they would help.

Why am I wrong?

Im not anti-mask per say, but I’ll bite on the basis of cloth masks.

Firstly, I could see cloth masks working if used correctly and in a timely manner, say a quick run in a store. The issues I see are these.

What happens when the cloth mask gets wet from breath. Are you actually pumping out more virus particles as you breathe through a moist cloth.

What happens when you touch a wet cloth mask with your hands? Isn’t that about the same as putting your fingers in your mouth and touching something?

Does the wet mask help stick viral particles to it?

Does mask wearing encourage less social distancing and longer periods in stores because you “think” you can’t spread it or get it?

Im looking at this from my safety standpoint. Not that I worry about getting Covid and getting bad sick, but I don’t like getting a cold in any case.
 
Im not anti-mask per say, but I’ll bite on the basis of cloth masks.

Firstly, I could see cloth masks working if used correctly and in a timely manner, say a quick run in a store. The issues I see are these.

What happens when the cloth mask gets wet from breath. Are you actually pumping out more virus particles as you breathe through a moist cloth.

What happens when you touch a wet cloth mask with your hands? Isn’t that about the same as putting your fingers in your mouth and touching something?

Does the wet mask help stick viral particles to it?

Does mask wearing encourage less social distancing and longer periods in stores because you “think” you can’t spread it or get it?

Im looking at this from my safety standpoint. Not that I worry about getting Covid and getting bad sick, but I don’t like getting a cold in any case.
There was a study I believe in the new England journal of medicine that said a damp wash cloth blocked a good % of droplets during speaking.
 
There was a study I believe in the new England journal of medicine that said a damp wash cloth blocked a good % of droplets during speaking.

That would be good news. Maybe new studies will answer my other questions. I’m definitely open to be convinced.
 
So I went to a local restaurant to pick up an order I called in. No worker (wait staff, cashier, cooks) was wearing a mask. Aren't they required to wear masks in NC? If so, how do I report them. My wife and I were not happy.
I think it's like any other health code violation, report it to the health department?
 
This. Begin with the HD. But of course you may live in a county where the proper authorities think its all just a hoax to begin with.
I think the overall percentage of people who think the virus is a hoax is very small.
 
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