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LithiaWx said:
the studies and data is out there comparing transmission rate based on if you wear a mask and If the infected person wears one or not and vice versa. If both wear a mask transmission goes down to 1-3%
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I was talking to a family member recently who is pissed off about the mask ordinance and when I brought this up they basically claimed a conspiracy that the politicized studies showed this but the apolitical studies showed the masks didn’t work. Can’t argue with someone claiming a conspiracy since the data doesn’t mean anything to them, so what can you do...
 
superjames1992 said:
Looks like people are presumably staying hospitalized longer for whatever reason. Maybe it’s because the hospitals have the excess capacity and thus are playing it safe with those under their care, maybe it’s because they’re hurting financially and are trying to milk their COVID patients for all the money they can get, or maybe it’s because those hospitalized are in worse condition and thus need care for longer? Hard to say. Interesting, though. I wish North Carolina published information on admissions.
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Yeah, it’s something rather odd. I wish states did a better job at differentiating hospitalized Covid patients and patients who happen to test positive for Covid.
 
Arcc said:
Yeah, it’s something rather odd. I wish states did a better job at differentiating hospitalized Covid patients and patients who happen to test positive for Covid.
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Yeah, I’d like to see that, too. Because the latter are largely irrelevant to the issue at hand and just serve to needlessly fluff the numbers. It’s not clear to me whether it’s a major problem, though, or just something that chops on the margins (I suspect it’s rather minor, though).
 
Arcc said:
Yeah, it’s something rather odd. I wish states did a better job at differentiating hospitalized Covid patients and patients who happen to test positive for Covid.
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I do know when my wife was giving birth the 3 times they tried to keep her in the full amount of time. They want that money. If they can push your release off a few days they will.
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Brick Tamland said:
The school issue is a huge mess, too. Wake County is going with the option of rotating three groups of students. One group is in school for a week, while the other two groups are having school online. That would probably leave 7 or 8 in each classroom. I think they are going to be eating lunch in the classroom. Or maybe have each class spread out in the cafeteria. Not sure how they are going to do busing yet. Everyone has to wear a mask. I guess this is the best way to do things to get kids back in school some while keeping the classes small and students separated during the day. I still don't know what working parents are going to do with work or child care during the two weeks the kids are supposed to be learning online.

Here's the thing with keeping kids out of school. How are working parents going to deal with it? They can't take that much time off work. A lot of them can't afford to put kids in day care or camp that often. But even if they could, that just defeats the purpose for keeping them out of school. Instead of having 7 or 8 kids together in a classroom, now you have a bunch of kids together at a day care or camp. There is going to be a risk either way. At least one way is still trying to teach them something.
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The schooling issue is a real mess. I believe Durham is going to make high schools remote and then spread the remaining elementary and middle school students out more using the high school capacity cleared up. I can’t imagine the long term damage canceling another year of school is going to cause.

I really wonder whether canceling schools, moving learning online, etc. is really the right move. I’m sure opening schools in the fall will cause more transmission and thus more deaths, but how much damage are we doing our children in the long run because of a lost year of learning? And what’s the cost-benefit analysis on that? I don’t think it’s an easy answer, but saving lives isn’t the only thing to consider, either.
 
As a teacher I completely dread going back and having to deal with the chaos that this virus has produced. I know people have to work and students need to be at school (I WANT TO TEACH AT SCHOOL) but something has got to give. How long after we start back do we shut schools again due to the fact that teachers are out sick and no one can sub for them or they have to be quarantined for 14 days because a student or staff member tested positive? I wish there were answers that would help everyone!
 
superjames1992 said:
Yeah, I’d like to see that, too. Because the latter are largely irrelevant to the issue at hand and just serve to needlessly fluff the numbers. It’s not clear to me whether it’s a major problem, though, or just something that chops on the margins (I suspect it’s rather minor, though).
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I know there was a news article out of Florida last week where they said 1/3 of the newly admitted were admitted for other reasons yet positive for Covid, but like you said everything else is murky.
 
NoSnowATL said:
I do know when my wife was giving birth the 3 times they tried to keep her in the full amount of time. They want that money. If they can push your release off a few days they will.
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They actually pushed my wife out quickly. My second oldest daughter I think they discharged both at a day in a half.
 
superjames1992 said:
The schooling issue is a real mess. I believe Durham is going to make high schools remote and then spread the remaining elementary and middle school students out more using the high school capacity cleared up. I can’t imagine the long term damage canceling another year of school is going to cause.

I really wonder whether canceling schools, moving learning online, etc. is really the right move. I’m sure opening schools in the fall will cause more transmission and thus more deaths, but how much damage are we doing our children in the long run because of a lost year of learning? And what’s the cost-benefit analysis on that? I don’t think it’s an easy answer, but saving lives isn’t the only thing to consider, either.
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That's what Forsyth/Winston-Salem schools are looking into doing. I wish Wake would do this instead of having the kids home for two weeks at a time, especially K-6.

Students from K-6, as well as English learners, special needs children and others in self-contained classrooms would attend school daily.

Students in 7-9 grade would be divided into two groups, with one group going to school on Mondays and Tuesdays and the second group going to school on Thursdays and Fridays. When not learning in-person, those students would have remote instruction. Wednesdays would be a remote learning day for all students and give teachers time to plan those lessons.

Those classes would be taught in high schools, which have more classroom space.

Students in 10-12 grade would have virtual school on every day but Wednesday, which would be set aside for personal meetings or tutoring sessions.
 
South Carolina reports 1,782 new cases and 21 new deaths.
Louisana reports 1,843 new cases and 16 new deaths.
 
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Gov Cooper is having a press conference now. Someone finally asked about the demographics of those being hospitalized.
 
Avalanche said:
What about the CBS story and Faucci basically saying that wearing masks were just "window dressing"? Faucci was adamant on it at the beginning and now seems to take a stance that it doesnt aid in preventing Covid at all.

Personally, just stay indoors as much as possible and away from people.

Hopefully, some business owners and corps will realize that you don't need brick/morter, and onsite personnel to conduct commerce going forward. Some businesses have been able to conduct commerce without onsite staff, allowing employess to work from home, and reducing overhead as well.
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Didn't Fauci later admit that he discouraged masks early on to keep the supply from dwindling for healthcare?
 
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