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Shaggy said:
Yeah. What we did then with far fewer cases is what we should be doing now but we blew the shot by going into that too early. Its Monday morning QBing though. We had very few details and a lot less knowledge then than we do now.

What we need is OTC quick testing kits. We need to do what China does. If they can't test a city of 11 million in a week and quarantine the sick people to prevent spread why cant we?

To me rapid and widespread testing on massive scales is our best chance going forward.
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Well they are only able to do that shaggy because they circumvent any rights we have here to make it happen !
 
Shaggy said:
Yeah. What we did then with far fewer cases is what we should be doing now but we blew the shot by going into that too early. Its Monday morning QBing though. We had very few details and a lot less knowledge then than we do now.

What we need is OTC quick testing kits. We need to do what China does. If they can't test a city of 11 million in a week and quarantine the sick people to prevent spread why cant we?

To me rapid and widespread testing on massive scales is our best chance going forward.
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Testing mandate?
 
Shaggy said:
Yeah. What we did then with far fewer cases is what we should be doing now but we blew the shot by going into that too early. Its Monday morning QBing though. We had very few details and a lot less knowledge then than we do now.

What we need is OTC quick testing kits. We need to do what China does. If they can't test a city of 11 million in a week and quarantine the sick people to prevent spread why cant we?

To me rapid and widespread testing on massive scales is our best chance going forward.
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You know we wouldn't get enough compliance for that
 
Rain Cold said:
All this would do is push out the increase in cases.
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Folks dont get it. All you do with lockdowns is essentially kick the can down the road. Eitheir you get the vaccine or face up to contracting the virus. 99%+ of those who do catch the virus want even know they had it or recover. The original only reason for the lockdowns back in March was to not overrun the hospitals. Now here we are with certain govenors telling us to limit Thanksgiving guest.
 
metwannabe said:
Testing mandate?
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Yeah pretty much. We dont like to talk about it but they are outright kicking our ass in controlling covid sure they lied about the initial outbreak and number of deaths. When they test 11 million people because they had 12 cases and they isolate the cases then they are far better capable of slowing the spread.
 
NCSNOW said:
Folks dont get it. All you do with lockdowns is essentially kick the can down the road. Eitheir you get the vaccine or face up to contracting the virus. 99%+ of those who do catch the virus want even know they had it or recover. The original only reason for the lockdowns back in March was to not overrun the hospitals. Now here we are with certain govenors telling us to limit Thanksgiving guest.
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That is not true. 99% will not "not even know they had". Its a very dangerous virus that effect people differently.
 
Shaggy said:
Yeah pretty much. We dont like to talk about it but they are outright kicking our ass in controlling covid sure they lied about the initial outbreak and number of deaths. When they test 11 million people because they had 12 cases and they isolate the cases then they are far better capable of slowing the spread.
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Good luck with that
 
If bamlanivimab is legit at keeping people out of the hospital it could be a decent hold over until a vaccine. At least then you aren't getting hospitalized if you contract it
 
NoSnowATL said:
What’s that survive rate again? 98-99%?
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Maybe it's just me but that fatality rate is scary for something so contagious (yes i know its skewed by older population). Family of 5 get it and you are looking at a 10% chance of someone dieing (ignoring age skew). Then we have health impacts for people surviving and potential hospital bills.
 
Broken024 said:
Maybe it's just me but that fatality rate is scary for something so contagious (yes i know its skewed by older population). Family of 5 get it and you are looking at a 10% chance of someone dieing (ignoring age skew). Then we have health impacts for people surviving and potential hospital bills.
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I’m still curious it’s really contagious, or if it is there is a good number of people that are immune. I know the following in my “close” family.

Family of 6 - 1 positive with flu symptoms

Family of 4 - 1 positive with a sniffle/very light fever for a day.

Family of 6 - 1 positive with flu symptoms

vs

My “then” family of 6 in 2018 - 6 positive with flu at the same time.
 
Snowfan said:
Also the POTUS can't do a national lockdown or a mask mandate. It's up to the states to order a lockdown or a mask mandate. https://www.npr.org/2020/04/02/8252...le-to-order-a-national-quarantine-experts-say
www.cnn.com

Fact Check: Can the President enact a nationwide mask mandate?

In "Under Control," a new campaign ad set to air on digital and TV nationally, former Vice President Joe Biden lays out the toplines of his plan to tackle Covid-19.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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Indeed. What they could do is strongly recommend it, which would probably see lockdowns along partisan lines. NC then would most likely be going back under lockdown under the recently re-elected Cooper, unfortunately.
 
NCSNOW said:
Folks dont get it. All you do with lockdowns is essentially kick the can down the road. Eitheir you get the vaccine or face up to contracting the virus. 99%+ of those who do catch the virus want even know they had it or recover. The original only reason for the lockdowns back in March was to not overrun the hospitals. Now here we are with certain govenors telling us to limit Thanksgiving guest.
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I generally agree, though I guess a counterpoint now is that if the touted 90% vaccine is truly a few months out, it may be possible to kick the can long enough until we can vaccinate high risk groups. But though I have hopes for a vaccine, we’ll see, and I’m not sure the economy can handle another month-long lockdown. Or my sanity.
 
superjames1992 said:
99.5-99.7% was the last estimate I heard. Of course it varies from basically 0 for the young and healthy to 5-10%+ for the old and unhealthy.
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For the entirety of the virus in the U.S. it's been about 96%... treatments have improved and it's up to 98.5-99% now.
www.worldometers.info

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
 
ghost1 said:
For the entirety of the virus in the U.S. it's been about 96%... treatments have improved and it's up to 98.5-99% now.
www.worldometers.info

United States COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

United States Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
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The survival rate is MUCH higher than 96-98.5%... you're looking only at confirmed cases... you have to take into account the fact that there have been many (millions?) who contracted COVID and never knew they had it due to being asymptomatic. Last CDC estimate I read a month or so ago theorized survival rate, including asymptomatic cases, was 99.5% - 99.8%.
 
Snowfan said:
Also the POTUS can't do a national lockdown or a mask mandate. It's up to the states to order a lockdown or a mask mandate. https://www.npr.org/2020/04/02/8252...le-to-order-a-national-quarantine-experts-say
www.cnn.com

Fact Check: Can the President enact a nationwide mask mandate?

In "Under Control," a new campaign ad set to air on digital and TV nationally, former Vice President Joe Biden lays out the toplines of his plan to tackle Covid-19.
www.cnn.com www.cnn.com
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But Trump should have done more! 200K dead and he should say their name!. :rolleyes:
 
If someone is worried about the virus, then by all means stay home and take the steps necessary to protect you and your family, but don't tell me / others how we need to live our lives.

By this point everyone in the US knows that covid is out there and there is enough data about who's at risk and who's not. Every time someone goes outside they are knowingly taking that risk. If someone doesn't want to take that risk, then they don't have to. However, if someone does, then let them.

Didn't we all learn that the only person you can control is yourself? So why are people still trying to control others? Big Daddy Government isn't going to keep you from getting sick, by telling me to stay home and not go into work.
 
Indiana reports 6,591 new cases and 51 new deaths.
Minnesota reports 7,225 new cases and 39 new deaths.
Illinois reports 12,702 new cases and 48 new deaths.
 
As I expected after the election, medical exemptions are now a no-go with big corporations requiring all to wear a mask. Costco first in line to announce with more to come soon. Very soon.
 
Shaggy said:
Our lockdowns were weak sauce. We never actually locked down.
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I support this not locking down again but that the original lockdowns were weak. We pulled down the economy without ever actually stopping the virus or slowing it. My dad and I said the same thing and we’re very conservative if we were going to shut down we should have really shutdown.
 
Round Oak Weather- Zeb said:
I support this not locking down again but that the original lockdowns were weak. We pulled down the economy without ever actually stopping the virus or slowing it. My dad and I said the same thing and we’re very conservative if we were going to shut down we should have really shutdown.
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Yep. Should have just taken the bullet early and had several months where we could be a bit more free, but careful before a second wave. Now we're on our third wave from what I can tell and waiting on a vaccine because the people aren't responsible enough to stay safe.
 
BirdManDoomW said:
As I expected after the election, medical exemptions are now a no-go with big corporations requiring all to wear a mask. Costco first in line to announce with more to come soon. Very soon.
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GOOD! It was only an excuse for 99% of the people claiming it.

The flimsy little puny masks that most wear don’t inhibit breathing in literally anyone. Not even N95 or multiple layers — And if it does, it’s chronic COPD that’s so far into disease that the person has an oxygen tank in their nose anyway.
 
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