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Webberweather53 said:
Waiting until the hospitals are nearly overloaded to shut everything down is way too late.
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There would need to be a certain threshold before they are overrun that would trigger a lockdown, something that would need to be determined by local leadership as part of an action plan.
 
Poimen said:
We've got to learn how to live side-by-side with this virus. We cant stay at home indefinitely. That said, I wouldn't rule out future lock downs in the winter.
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Yeah when flu season hits that alone will probably increase hospital load. We may want to try to get the worst behind us now before flu season hits.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Waiting until the hospitals are nearly overloaded to shut everything down is way too late.
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I asked this the other day and didn’t get much of a response. How do you propose to keep people fed and housed if we shut down for that long? I’m not trolling and only want to hear both sides. Our government is too dumb to just take care of it.
 
Poimen said:
We've got to learn how to live side-by-side with this virus. We cant stay at home indefinitely. That said, I wouldn't rule out future lock downs in the winter.
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We can adapt, but it's whether people are willing to throw out their "I want it now" mentality when it comes to store limits and social distancing until the virus becomes a low threat overall. A lot of people are starting to become less patient and juts say f masks and don't wear one, then get mad at others for wearing one, and then more people are growing angry at people who aren't wearing one or have to take theirs off for a short time. People are willing to comply, but it's the dangerous percentage of them that get mad at people or companies for trying to protect people and lash out as a result.
 
EmersonGA said:
I asked this the other day and didn’t get much of a response. How do you propose to keep people fed and housed if we shut down for that long? I’m not trolling and only want to hear both sides. Our government is too dumb to just take care of it.
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The treasury will print more and more money to give us until it collapses. Then the real panic starts.
 
What should happen is that instead of keeping the economy locked down, quasi-locked down, or going back into lockdown, at the cost of trillions of dollars and permanent damage to people's livelihoods and businesses everywhere, they should open up. Instead of trillions in cost resulting from being locked down, they should spend billions of dollars to expand and augment healthcare facilities to accommodate potential overflow and encourage safety measures in public places.

Spend a "little" and shore up the healthcare infrastructure and get things open again, saving a lot.
 
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This is also interesting and it might explain Arizona and parts of Texas some if they're counting them...



California on the other hand, I might have to tell my mom that entertainment might end up shutting back down (she lost General Hospital this time last month and they may be shooting again soon or already are). Apparently some are getting tested multiple times, but right now California is showing that if they weren't quick, they might have been another Italy/NYC with the population they have there. Honestly probably might still wind up going that way.
 
Rain Cold said:
What should happen is that instead of keeping the economy locked down, quasi-locked down, or going back into lockdown, at the cost of trillions of dollars and permanent damage to people's livelihoods and businesses everywhere, they should open up. Instead of trillions in cost resulting from being locked down, they should spend billions of dollars to expand and augment healthcare facilities to accommodate potential overflow and encourage safety measures in public places.

Spend a "little" and shore up the healthcare infrastructure and get things open again, saving a lot.
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This is a (mostly) great idea that makes a lot of sense. I wish it had even a slight chance of actually being implemented.
 
Webberweather53 said:
We are gonna have to shut everything down again asap because we are still getting lagged (& grossly underreported) numbers from ~2 weeks ago. Big shocker, saving the economy at the expense of human lives wasn’t the right move here.
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Nope you are flat wrong. How about phase 3 with less restrictions?
 
My theory: younger people are out after the shutdown, enjoying summer, that sort of thing. So they're the ones getting it right now. Eventually I expect this will trigger outbreaks in more vulnerable populations, but the death indicator is going to lag more than it has in the past.

Somewhat improved medical treatments and increased mask usage by older people may also be helping.
 
People around here will yank those masks off the elderly if they see them wearing them because it is very anti-mask here since Boone started it first.
 
BirdManDoomW said:
People around here will yank those masks off the elderly if they see them wearing them because it is very anti-mask here since Boone started it first.
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Eh, people like to act tough on Facebook but nothing happens in reality. I work in downtown Boone and mask usage is way up since we've reopened. Seeing more of it in other stores throughout the county, not just Boone.

Now, when I drive down Main Street in Blowing Rock, almost no one is wearing a mask, but they are outside. Not sure if they're putting them on to go inside or not.
 
Rain Cold said:
What should happen is that instead of keeping the economy locked down, quasi-locked down, or going back into lockdown, at the cost of trillions of dollars and permanent damage to people's livelihoods and businesses everywhere, they should open up. Instead of trillions in cost resulting from being locked down, they should spend billions of dollars to expand and augment healthcare facilities to accommodate potential overflow and encourage safety measures in public places.

Spend a "little" and shore up the healthcare infrastructure and get things open again, saving a lot.
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I’d love that being in healthcare construction. Most of our projects are cancelled or on hold due to revenue shortages.
 
EmersonGA said:
I asked this the other day and didn’t get much of a response. How do you propose to keep people fed and housed if we shut down for that long? I’m not trolling and only want to hear both sides. Our government is too dumb to just take care of it.
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The feds will have to institute emergency laws, bills, & stimulus. If you don’t do anything and keep loosening restrictions then hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions will die.
 
Weird, GA DPH says it updated but has identical numbers as yesterday. Guess it’s a glitch, but after the record day yesterday, kinda wish they would make sure the data is updating
 
India reports 15,183 new cases and 426 new deaths.
Pakistian reports 4,951 new cases and 119 new deaths.
 
Social distancing and the lockdowns worked. We slowed the spread giving the hospitals time to prepare.

The disastrous rollout of the lockdowns and who can open and who cant just turned everyone off of these lockdowns. I couldnt get a haircut if I had a new job interview but I could go buy a 5th of liquor? Serious wtf.

This entire disaster response has been abysmal from the top down at every agency and level of government.
 
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Shaggy said:
Social distancing and the lockdowns worked. We slowed the spread giving the hospitals time to prepare.

The disastrous rollout of the lockdowns and who can open and who cant just turned everyone off of these lockdowns. I couldnt get a haircut if I had a new job interview but I could go buy a 5th of liquor? Serious wtf.

This entire disaster response has been abysmal from the top down at every agency and level of government.
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Come to Georgia, you can get a hair cut, shop, eat and buy liquor.
 
ontherocks said:
Weird, GA DPH says it updated but has identical numbers as yesterday. Guess it’s a glitch, but after the record day yesterday, kinda wish they would make sure the data is updating
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Here's the late update:


GA reported changes in 24 hour increments ending on Fri 6/12 through Sun 6/21: chart looks good on my PC but jumbled on my Iphone

Note the record high # of cases reported for any one day on 6/20 but also note the huge increase in number of tests recorded that day. Then notice both tests and cases drop way back down on 6/21. Note 6/21's low hosp, ICU, and deaths but that's because it is a Sunday.

Date...………………...…….. Fri 6/12....Sat 6/13..Sun 6/14..Mon 6/15..Tue 6/16.....Wed 6/17..Thu 6/18..Fri 6/19..Sat 6/20..Sun 6/21
Tests (excluding antibodies): 7,493...…….13,254...…..16,286...…..7,089...……...4,218...……..15,450...…….12,696...…..6,556.......24,613......9,719
Cases...……….......….………………....810...……….1,018...………..880...…….733...………...664...…………..952...………….882...…..1,097.........1,800........892
Hospitalizations...…………………..108...…………...43.........……..24...…......74...………….132...…………….89...…………120...……..109...............65.............27
ICU...………………….…………..………...15...…………….8...…………….5...………..9...…………...22...…………….19...…………...25...……….13...............18................4
Deaths...……………...…………...………43......………...28...…...……….5...……...43......……...….35......………….46...…………..30...……….31..................6................1
 
Roy Cooper said he would not follow the democratic state of New York where they did region by region phases/restrictions. Why should Wilkesboro and Elizabeth City be in the same boat? Politics. That’s your answer. And that’s why he’s getting voted out in November.
 
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Why did we pick to battle salons and gyms over Tyson Foods?. $600 to unemployed for all should have been reserved to meat processing plants only. And or large COVID hotspots.
 
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WHO should be abolished after all the money and time they had for this **** show. You can’t tell me it would cost billions to know we needed a plan for region by region restrictions (not state by state), job hot spots plans and face masks. And WHO should have had unemployment plans surely it wouldn’t have costed billions to know $600 extra on top of their unemployment is a stab in the back to essential workers.
 
WHO had time and money to know we needed to limit sanitizer and toilet paper too before it got here. I mean they are such a big failure. someone who makes $10/hr nobody would have had some concrete policy to follow and protect America’s interest.
 
BirdManDoomW said:
WHO should be abolished after all the money and time they had for this **** show. You can’t tell me it would cost billions to know we needed a plan for region by region restrictions (not state by state), job hot spots plans and face masks. And WHO should have had unemployment plans surely it wouldn’t have costed billions to know $600 extra on top of their unemployment is a stab in the back to essential workers.
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Mr Birdman. The WHO can't implement restrictions in the US because they are the Worldwide Health Organization. This means they have no jurisdiction within the US.
 
YetAnotherRDUGuy said:
Mr Birdman. The WHO can't implement restrictions in the US because they are the Worldwide Health Organization. This means they have no jurisdiction within the US.
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Maybe they should after all the money we gave them. We poured all that money into them to not even know we needed masks or not are you kidding me
 
BirdManDoomW said:
Roy Cooper said he would not follow the democratic state of New York where they did region by region phases/restrictions. Why should Wilkesboro and Elizabeth City be in the same boat? Politics. That’s your answer. And that’s why he’s getting voted out in November.
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Hes not getting voted out. And we have a political thread here, use that.

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