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Misc 2018 Banter & Venting Thread

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Tarheel1 said:
It's all about the EPO! That's made this whole winter
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EPO isn't doing any favors for a while, and standing alone, it won't help much, even if it does go just a tad negative ...

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And, additionally, until the tropics (MJO) give us some relief ... :confused:

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Not all of the indices have to work, but dadgumit, at least some do, and for 10 -14 days, they are working on N to slightly AN.

If there is a change of any consequence, I'll be post/screaming it from the rooftops ... ;)

But - a ray of hope ...

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Here’s the original information I was looking at and it was actually January of last year.

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But I also know we had snow in late March and so I dug a little more and found that Nashville actually got 1.5 inches in March and a trace in April last winter. I know somewhere in West Tennessee ended up with almost 4 inches on the same day but I’m not sure where. I do believe that most of it melted by evening but still it’s impressive with how warm last winter was. It gives us hope because last winter was about as warm as you’ll ever see and we still got snow.

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Edit: That said my backyard got nothing but Fluries even though places close to me got a little snow. :(
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ForsythSnow said:
Lol everyone trying to track a pseudo-threat. We are done for the month, move on. I don't see any signal for any wintry system of any kind. All I see is a warm up and severe weather threats from massive cutters. We don't get winter storms every week.
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Lol please if there was a pseudo-threat for your backyard you would be tracking it . You track that front end ice event a few weeks ago....

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Tarheel1 said:
It's all about the EPO! That's made this whole winter
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I'd argue that the intense SE cold since 12/31 has been more about the +PNA than the -EPO since the EPO has only averaged modestly negative while the PNA has averaged more strongly positive. A +1.00 PNA is about equivalent to a -200 EPO anomalywise. By the way, those super intense -EPO progs for late Dec. of like -400 to -500 never materialized as the lowest it got was only -184!!

EPO since 12/31/17:

2017 12 31 -75.75
2018 01 01 -80.24
2018 01 02 -78.47
2018 01 03 -108.34
2018 01 04 -112.18
2018 01 05 -53.59
2018 01 06 32.92
2018 01 07 5.21
2018 01 08 -33.81
2018 01 09 42.00
2018 01 10 53.01
2018 01 11 62.66
2018 01 12 27.16
2018 01 13 -28.90
2018 01 14 -49.49
2018 01 15 -26.64
2018 01 16 33.27
2018 01 17 63.32
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PNA since 12/31/17:

31Dec2017 0.68
01Jan2018 0.92
02Jan2018 1.16
03Jan2018 1.10
04Jan2018 0.90
05Jan2018 0.87
06Jan2018 1.02
07Jan2018 0.72
08Jan2018 0.51
09Jan2018 0.30
10Jan2018 0.16
11Jan2018 0.23
12Jan2018 0.43
13Jan2018 0.82
14Jan2018 1.04
15Jan2018 0.80
16Jan2018 0.24
17Jan2018 -0.67

Edit: Note the 8 +EPO days since 12/31 vs only 1 -PNA day since then.
 
Its been three years since our last good winter storm in Huntsville. While I can't expect a large storm every year, we are technically under the climatological average for the area.
 
GaWx said:
I'd argue that the intense SE cold since 12/31 has been more about the +PNA than the -EPO since the EPO has only averaged modestly negative while the PNA has averaged more strongly positive. A +1.00 PNA is about equivalent to a -200 EPO anomalywise. By the way, those super intense -EPO progs for late Dec. of like -400 to -500 never materialized as the lowest it got was only -184!!

EPO since 12/31/17:

2017 12 31 -75.75
2018 01 01 -80.24
2018 01 02 -78.47
2018 01 03 -108.34
2018 01 04 -112.18
2018 01 05 -53.59
2018 01 06 32.92
2018 01 07 5.21
2018 01 08 -33.81
2018 01 09 42.00
2018 01 10 53.01
2018 01 11 62.66
2018 01 12 27.16
2018 01 13 -28.90
2018 01 14 -49.49
2018 01 15 -26.64
2018 01 16 33.27
2018 01 17 63.32
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PNA since 12/31/17:

31Dec2017 0.68
01Jan2018 0.92
02Jan2018 1.16
03Jan2018 1.10
04Jan2018 0.90
05Jan2018 0.87
06Jan2018 1.02
07Jan2018 0.72
08Jan2018 0.51
09Jan2018 0.30
10Jan2018 0.16
11Jan2018 0.23
12Jan2018 0.43
13Jan2018 0.82
14Jan2018 1.04
15Jan2018 0.80
16Jan2018 0.24
17Jan2018 -0.67

Edit: Note the 8 +EPO days since 12/31 vs only 1 -PNA day since then.
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I love facts, Larry! ;)
 
crecre9 said:
Its been three years since our last good winter storm in Huntsville. While I can't expect a large storm every year, we are technically under the climatological average for the area.
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yeah, the Tn Valley has been left out this winter, just brutal cold. Storm tracks have either been north or south of us. Usually when Huntsville gets good snow, Chattanooga follows.
 
SD said:
Good to see other boards taking our ideas

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SD said:
Good to see other boards taking our ideas

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That's a very good compliant to this board and the contribution from the Southernwx family. Just image what will happen later when we grow even more, this site is what a year, year and a half old. Thank you to all the folks behind curtain you do a great JOB!!
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We only realized about 3-4 days out, that a lot of us were going to get snow from the last system, some of us 2 days out! So trying to look at indicies, charts , models, strat warnings, NOAA temp/precip maps,is an exercise in futility!
 
Tarheel1 said:
We only realized about 3-4 days out, that a lot of us were going to get snow from the last system, some of us 2 days out! So trying to look at indicies, charts , models, strat warnings, NOAA temp/precip maps,is an exercise in futility!
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Very respectful question ... Then why bother reading, posting, or formulating an opinion?
 
Eh AmericanWX just upgraded their forum software; and the byproduct was a like/emote system. Nottheft or anything. Maybe moreso of IPB stealing from Xenforo. We aren't in any kind of competition with each other. ;)
 
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