Been quiet for a while just reading and contemplating our Winter. But, this is a Banter thread and I contend that a lot of people posting in our other threads... November, Winter, etc., constantly Banter. They say the same negative and/or repetitive things time and time again and we have to read through it to get to the meaningful, thoughtful, knowledgeable stuff. I suggest looking at what you are about to post and see if it adds anything to the discussion or is it just Banter. OK, just a thought from a wise old man. Maybe just old.