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Misc 2017 Banter/venting thread

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Probably the most astute thing I have read in months, at least; from Ryan Maue's new website:
Some Weather Services pretend that you can know in the morning where exactly a storm will happen in the afternoon. Or if it will be 50 or 70 degrees 20 days from now. The truth is: they can't. Actually, nobody can. With all those Apps out there pretending a knowledge which doesn't exist in meteorological science, people get frustrated about those weatherpersons. They give us a forecast for our place 2 weeks away, how can they be wrong for the next day?
I invite all to keep this in mind before calling for a torch, calling for an ice age, or calling anything in between ... ;)
 
pcbjr said:
Probably the most astute thing I have read in months, at least; from Ryan Maue's new website:
Some Weather Services pretend that you can know in the morning where exactly a storm will happen in the afternoon. Or if it will be 50 or 70 degrees 20 days from now. The truth is: they can't. Actually, nobody can. With all those Apps out there pretending a knowledge which doesn't exist in meteorological science, people get frustrated about those weatherpersons. They give us a forecast for our place 2 weeks away, how can they be wrong for the next day?
I invite all to keep this in mind before calling for a torch, calling for an ice age, or calling anything in between ... ;)
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I totally agree with you (as usual). Unfortunately, the only weather info most people receive is from these APPs now. I try to tell those closest to me not to base their plans on those APP forecast... even for later the same day. They will tell me "it says we will have a thunderstorm at 3:00 pm today and the rain chance goes to 60% at 2:00, 100% at 3:00 and back down to 20% by 5:00". Then they will make or change their plans based on that. Then, if there is no storm at 3:00 or it is raining at 6:00 they will grumble that all weather people and me are stupid.

I work for a major natural gas transportation pipeline so weather is hugely important to the demand on our system. Unfortunately, decisions are being based off these forecasts and the difference in getting a storm in B'ham or Atl and not getting a storm, especially during the afternoon, can have a huge impact on our daily throughput. A five degree difference in a daily mean temp in these cities can cause a 25% change in usage. Winter can be even worse. Again, "Weather People" get a really bad wrap. Our CEO called me into a meeting while he was here in B'ham for a budget meeting, and asked me what this winter was going to be like. I told him if he could tell me what Stock prices would be next February I would give him a forecast. Fortunately, he laughed, then I told him I thought we would return to a close to normal winter this year. That will still be a good bit colder than the past two. Now I am pulling for Neutral to weak Nina.

Sorry for being long winded, but this subject pushes my buttons.
 
MRStorm said:
I totally agree with you (as usual). Unfortunately, the only weather info most people receive is from these APPs now. I try to tell those closest to me not to base their plans on those APP forecast... even for later the same day. They will tell me "it says we will have a thunderstorm at 3:00 pm today and the rain chance goes to 60% at 2:00, 100% at 3:00 and back down to 20% by 5:00". Then they will make or change their plans based on that. Then, if there is no storm at 3:00 or it is raining at 6:00 they will grumble that all weather people and me are stupid.

I work for a major natural gas transportation pipeline so weather is hugely important to the demand on our system. Unfortunately, decisions are being based off these forecasts and the difference in getting a storm in B'ham or Atl and not getting a storm, especially during the afternoon, can have a huge impact on our daily throughput. A five degree difference in a daily mean temp in these cities can cause a 25% change in usage. Winter can be even worse. Again, "Weather People" get a really bad wrap. Our CEO called me into a meeting while he was here in B'ham for a budget meeting, and asked me what this winter was going to be like. I told him if he could tell me what Stock prices would be next February I would give him a forecast. Fortunately, he laughed, then I told him I thought we would return to a close to normal winter this year. That will still be a good bit colder than the past two. Now I am pulling for Neutral to weak Nina.

Sorry for being long winded, but this subject pushes my buttons.
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I really appreciate your post! Publicly - Thanks for chiming in with such great thoughts and humor (about everything except yours truly, which are not deserved). Here's encouraging others to be as realistic based on what we know and more importantly, on what we don't ...
Best!
Phil
 
I'm sure I'll be banned but....
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Essentially the NCAA said you can take fake classes as long as everyone else is taking them (?), but if you want to transfer from an out of state school after taking real classes (like Braxton Beverly at NCSU), that's not okay...
What.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Essentially the NCAA said you can take fake classes as long as everyone else is taking them (?), but if you want to transfer from an out of state school after taking real classes (like Braxton Beverly at NCSU), that's not okay...
What.
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so he took classes at another school before transferring?
 
So, apparently if you are UNC, you can commit every wrong doing possible, every day, and still not even get a slap on the wrist. *&$#
 
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