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All the people on Facebook already think it's fake anyway... Of course last week people were talking about the big attempt in 2024 being fake

I think I'm logging out for awhile
the (second?) suspect is literally covered up in a tinfoil blanket. twitter "staged" is trending

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this is all a distraction from the war negotiations not happening. dont fall for it.


edit: before the event; mighty interesting choice of words. they're rubbing it in the face of people who won't figure it out.

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Per Wolf Blitzer, who was only a few feet from the shooter, the shooter definitely was in the supposedly secure area, i.e., past the magnetometer(s).
 
the (second?) suspect is literally covered up in a tinfoil blanket. twitter "staged" is trending

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this is all a distraction from the war negotiations not happening. dont fall for it.


edit: before the event; mighty interesting choice of words. they're rubbing it in the face of people who won't figure it out.

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Wrong! The guy is one of those alien hybrids ex-congressman Butthead was referencing. Probably after a scientist there. The space blanket blocks the transmitter hidden in his posterior.
 
I haven't kept up with much of this thread but most of what I have read is astoundingly ridiculous. I've never seen such a pathetic collection of random social media links to nobodies, that are only referenced because they promote the personal bias of the one quoting it. The conspiracy theory level in here is off the charts and leading to some really crazy stuff. It's like the tabloids in here with half the people falling for it then passing it along. If some of you guys really believe the stuff you are posting then you must live amazingly paranoid and sleepless lives.

None of us know what all is really happening and none of us know more than the people on the front lines. If Iran was a real threat something had to be done. Period. If not then we got it wrong and there should be accountability for it. This tonight is another domestic attack on our national security and on our top officials, including the president. I wish we all could see through political lines and blind hate of certain individuals just long enough to stop throwing more conspiracy theories and come together... just for a minute
 
I haven't kept up with much of this thread but most of what I have read is astoundingly ridiculous. I've never seen such a pathetic collection of random social media links to nobodies, that are only referenced because they promote the personal bias of the one quoting it. The conspiracy theory level in here is off the charts and leading to some really crazy stuff. It's like the tabloids in here with half the people falling for it then passing it along. If some of you guys really believe the stuff you are posting then you must live amazingly paranoid and sleepless lives.

None of us know what all is really happening and none of us know more than the people on the front lines. If Iran was a real threat something had to be done. Period. If not then we got it wrong and there should be accountability for it. This tonight is another domestic attack on our national security and on our top officials, including the president. I wish we all could see through political lines and blind hate of certain individuals just long enough to stop throwing more conspiracy theories and come together... just for a minute
Are you saying this isn’t to justify the ballroom?
 
Back to the war. Iran issues new demands



BACK TO IRAN AND THE NEGOTIATIONS FARCEREPORT: Just minutes after talks collapsed, Tehran handed Washington terms that would: • Guarantee zero consequences for future aggression• Hand over effective control of the Strait of Hormuz• Legitimize uranium enrichment while “promising” no weapons• Lift ALL sanctions immediately• Scrap UN and IAEA oversight• Force a U.S. military withdrawal from the region• Protect its proxy network, including HezbollahAnd then, on top of that… they’re asking for compensation.
 
Trump opened this can of worms when he unilaterally declared a ceasefire before the job was finished.



1. U.S. guarantee of non-aggression — A binding commitment from the U.S. (and allies) against future attacks on Iran, confirmed by the UN Security Council! 2. Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz — Iran retains full control, including possibly regulating passage and charging fees on shipping (a major economic and strategic demand). 3. Restrictions on Iranian nuclear activities for 10 years, but also Acceptance of Iran’s right to uranium enrichment — Formal recognition of Iran’s nuclear enrichment activities (for civilian purposes, per Iran), with Iran committing not to build nuclear weapons.4–5. Lifting of all primary and secondary sanctions — Removal of direct U.S. sanctions on Iran and sanctions on third parties doing business with Iran. 6–7. Termination of UN Security Council and IAEA resolutions against Iran (related to its nuclear program and other issues). 8. Reparations/compensation for war damages to Iran (infrastructure, military, etc.). 9. U.S. military withdrawal from the region (combat forces from bases in the Middle East). 10. Cessation of hostilities on all fronts — End to regional wars, including against Iran’s allies/proxies like Hezbollah in Lebanon, and broader “Axis of Resistance” groups.
 


My thoughts on the security at the WHCD last night.The first exterior security for me was on the street outside of the hotel. I flashed my ticket and was waved through in one second. My name was not checked against any list, I showed no ID, I was not patted down and did not go through a metal detector. I probably could have shown a ticket from a prior year or a fake one as they barely looked at it. (I don't know who that exterior security was, they were guys in suits).From that point, I walked into the hotel with no further security check, and I walked down to the Fox pre-party where there were multiple ballrooms that were absolutely PACKED with attendees. Still did not go through any security at that point.Hypothetically, If I had hidden an explosive in my shoe or my jacket, I would have had no problem getting into one of those ballrooms. Only once it was time to get into the main ballroom for the dinner did we pass through magnetometers, empty our pockets, and get a pat down. And even that checkpoint was just outside of the dinner room. Two things can be true at the same time.Secret Service reacted quickly to an active armed threat and prevented that threat from getting into the ballroom. But the security leading up to that point, in my opinion, appeared to be lacking severely.
 
Back to the war. Iran issues new demands



BACK TO IRAN AND THE NEGOTIATIONS FARCEREPORT: Just minutes after talks collapsed, Tehran handed Washington terms that would: • Guarantee zero consequences for future aggression• Hand over effective control of the Strait of Hormuz• Legitimize uranium enrichment while “promising” no weapons• Lift ALL sanctions immediately• Scrap UN and IAEA oversight• Force a U.S. military withdrawal from the region• Protect its proxy network, including HezbollahAnd then, on top of that… they’re asking for compensation.

Wow If this is anywhere near the truth Trump has absolutely NO CHOICE but to go back to war and pound Iran into the ground.
 
If these new demands are true Trump has to do something. He cannot let Iran have all of this.
His next blink may come as early as tomorrow. I find it disgusting that we fought for 40 days for nothing. Our soldiers died so we could get a deal acceptable to Russia and China? When supposedly everyone gets something it means Iran gets everything. A few promises to be nice will be about it.



SOME KEY DEVELPMENTS As things stand, slowly but quietly, a "mega deal," not just involving the principal parties (Iran & the US), but several regional players and beyond, is in the making.The likely deal between Iran and the US will not only reflect their concerns and demands, but also those of other stakeholders.A flurry of diplomatic activities over the past 48 hours suggests a serious push to end the Iran-US war permanently.Besides Pakistan, several other countries, including Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Egypt, to name a few, are working in tandem to thrash out a deal acceptable to everyone.The Iranian Foreign Minister spoke to his Saudi counterpart on his way back from Oman to Islamabad.While most are focused on Trump’s bluster, the real work is being done quietly and efficiently.
 
I dont believe in conspiracies and last night was a real attempt on Trump's life. However, he is going to use the media coverage of this to rush thru a surrender to Iran
 
His next blink may come as early as tomorrow. I find it disgusting that we fought for 40 days for nothing. Our soldiers died so we could get a deal acceptable to Russia and China? When supposedly everyone gets something it means Iran gets everything. A few promises to be nice will be about it.



SOME KEY DEVELPMENTS As things stand, slowly but quietly, a "mega deal," not just involving the principal parties (Iran & the US), but several regional players and beyond, is in the making.The likely deal between Iran and the US will not only reflect their concerns and demands, but also those of other stakeholders.A flurry of diplomatic activities over the past 48 hours suggests a serious push to end the Iran-US war permanently.Besides Pakistan, several other countries, including Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, and Egypt, to name a few, are working in tandem to thrash out a deal acceptable to everyone.The Iranian Foreign Minister spoke to his Saudi counterpart on his way back from Oman to Islamabad.While most are focused on Trump’s bluster, the real work is being done quietly and efficiently.


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I will be right. I have a feeling the 1 group of people who wont find the deal agreeable are the ones who will have to live under a victorious, murderous regime for many more decades

Possible. A meteorologist calling for rain will be right as well, eventually, I think...
 
Possible. A meteorologist calling for rain will be right as well, eventually, I think...
In this case the rain has already started and the forecast verified. I have been right ever since Trump called a very premature ceasefire. From that point on there was never going to be a resumption of the war and the concessions from us will add up.
 


Cole Allen’s Manifesto:“In order to minimize casualties, I will also be using buckshot rather than slugs (less penetration through walls). I would still go through most everyone here to get to the targets if it were absolutely necessary (on the basis that most people *chose* to attend a speech by a pedophile, rapist, and traitor, and are thus complicit) but I really hope it doesn’t come to that.”“Like, if I was an Iranian agent, instead of an American citizen, I could have brought a damn Ma Deuce in here and no one would have noticed ----. Actually insane.”
 
In this case the rain has already started and the forecast verified. I have been right ever since Trump called a very premature ceasefire. From that point on there was never going to be a resumption of the war and the concessions from us will add up.

Water from a sprinkler system does not mean it's raining.
 
Back to the war. Iran issues new demands



BACK TO IRAN AND THE NEGOTIATIONS FARCEREPORT: Just minutes after talks collapsed, Tehran handed Washington terms that would: • Guarantee zero consequences for future aggression• Hand over effective control of the Strait of Hormuz• Legitimize uranium enrichment while “promising” no weapons• Lift ALL sanctions immediately• Scrap UN and IAEA oversight• Force a U.S. military withdrawal from the region• Protect its proxy network, including HezbollahAnd then, on top of that… they’re asking for compensation.

End them. To heck with this bs
 
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