Half a foot+ of sleet would be a positively absurd thing to see manifest
Half a foot+ of sleet would be a positively absurd thing to see manifest
Oh yeah for sure. Less than .1” ZR in Raleigh I’d sign up for that. Get to keep my power and sled around campus all day and have some cold beersThat it is, but it’s several inches of it. We could be talking 3-6” of sleet alone which would be insane and shut things down for a long time. Topped with ice. Preceded by a little snow, perhaps? That’s a hell of a storm.
I think some of you all have unrealistic expectations with this which is leading to some of the meltdowns and bittercasting. Yes, it’s true that it’s nigh impossible for this to become a 12-18” snowstorm for those of us in NC/SC/GA but the table is still set for a sizable front end thump if the cards are aligned right and then a transition to tons of ice pellets and freezing rain (I understand feelings are mixed on this P-type, and for good reason). The GFS is still showing this for some. A lot of major winter storms are like this in our area - snow to ice pellets to freezing rain.
sledding down the court of carolina would be pretty freaking cool. Sleet bombs can be dopeHonestly, a front thump of 4-6 followed by a raging 3 inches of pingers with a .15 zr glaze to turbocharge sledding, make it pretty but leave power and trees alone sounds awesome. Better than anything we’ve seen in years and my daughter would have a ball.
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Plus the backside now would be great. I see lower QPF in the lee side so you know its right. LOLMan that would be an epic time of sledding if played out like the 18Z GFS just showed. 3 inches of snow, then 2 inches of sleet, then 4 more inches of snow.


ridge also slightly weakerUKMET continues with 12z element of Northern Energy and Baja low separating a decent amount you can see the nose retrograde here some that will continue to help flatten the initially elements.... now if the Energy would then just slide east a little sooner you would have a better SE overrunning window for deep south
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uk also has a faster cold press across the east at 66 hours vs prior runs. In general this has been the theme today....as part of this is the models are "seeing" the wedging more as we get closer.UKMET continues with 12z element of Northern Energy and Baja low separating a decent amount you can see the nose retrograde here some that will continue to help flatten the initially elements.... now if the Energy would then just slide east a little sooner you would have a better SE overrunning window for deep south
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It does pan out. I’ve seen it many times over the 5 decades I’ve lived IN NC. Storms this big, complex and with such a long duration always flip flop back and forth and very often there is snow on back end. Screw the models.Just a word of caution about backside snow…it often doesn’t pan out since extremely dry air is advected in and CAA is highly favorable for subsidence
The February 2014 backside snow comes to mind. The ULL gave areas of the foothills 6-12” on the backside of the snow to ice storm,It does pan out. I’ve seen it many times over the 5 decades I’ve lived IN NC. Storms this big, complex and with such a long duration always flip flop back and forth and very often there is snow on back end. Screw the models.

ULLs are a beautiful thing and over perform in most cases. Speaking from pure experience here.The February 2014 backside snow comes to mind. The ULL gave areas of the foothills 6-12” on the backside of the snow to ice storm,


Elevation hurts in this setup. WB sent a reporter to Sky Valley back in the 2000 ice storm and it was raining while it was icing all over Atlanta.I don't think I've ever seen a model output where Statesboro is at 27 and Hiawassee is 34 and raining lol
Both are trending much weaker. If I were that model I would be embarrassedGFS is trending weaker and retreating with the high like the Euro…so they have that in common. But I guess we shouldn’t discuss that….only positive vibes
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It depends on the setup. You need a trailing wave / vort max dropping in on the backside of the storm (Dec 2010, Feb 2014). GFS has a small one, but it's on an island with that (well, with a lot of things)It does pan out. I’ve seen it many times over the 5 decades I’ve lived IN NC. Storms this big, complex and with such a long duration always flip flop back and forth and very often there is snow on back end. Screw the models.
That’s a jump N on NAM, correct???Y'all didn't think we'd all not get NAMd at some point? Potent wedge deep into the Ga. CAD region, precip looks like it would be much lighter than say the ICON that goes nuclear with 3+ inches.
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Might be banter and sorry if it is, I in some recent discussion from some people here, they stated that the HP could weaken as we get closer. Not has strong as modeled. I am not shocked by this at all.Both are trending much weaker. If I were that model I would be embarrassed
Not going too, the euro has been off due to the triple phasing and will correct SBiggest question for me is, when does the GFS fold now or tomorrow?
I’ve never seen anything like this. Nothing close. I’ve seen it on 300hr maps. But that’s it. It’s not snow but if this happens the way they say it’s going to happen, it’s a storm you will never forget. The landscape once this is over with won’t let you.For those who have been doing this for a while, how rare is this entire scenario, with how powerful the storm is and seemingly confused the models are.