Brandon10
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Someone with a better eye...the new RRFS that is replacing the NAM...0z looks less baja interaction and colder. It performed well last week IMO. Any thoughts?
Not when the surface temps are in the teens with reinforcing CAD. A very large portion will accrue if it’s all ZRGonna throw this out there for the newbie’s
ZR is a self - limiting process!!
Pray for sleet or snow if you want a memorable storm
I remember seeing an ob of 7 degrees and ZR for i think Saratoga NY before. AmazingGoodness gracious, it's like 9F in Greensboro and probably sleeting
That's a new one
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And sleet of that magnitude will take literally forever to melt with the cold air sticking around all next week. Long lasting effects.If you’re wondering on sleet ratios. It’s generally 3:1. So these 2-3” QPF bombs if it was all sleet would be 6-9”
We laugh at that 18z gfs map. But its gonna come close somewhere. Def 20 inch stripe. Just most likely across state lineThat ICON snow map for Virginia is nuts. Basically 15-20 inches everywhere but parts of Hampton Roads.
Not exactly true when temps are in the teens and low 20s with constant supply of cold dry airGonna throw this out there for the newbie’s
ZR is a self - limiting process!!
Pray for sleet or snow if you want a memorable storm
Cold air damming from the mountains I presumeIf the ICON snatched the Baja low, what made it stay so cold?
I just seen the Icon, looks good even for my area to the SW. freezing rain knocking on my door. Nice cold push on this 0z runIcon for better for the western folks. AKA temps
And the Icon is usually more conservative in general. That’s a sign.That ICON snow map for Virginia is nuts. Basically 15-20 inches everywhere but parts of Hampton Roads.
It’s usually warm biased so seeing it cold is kind of reassuring. Would love to have the 0Z Euro on my side thoughWhat are the ICON biases?
I've seen freezing rain in the Triangle at 21 F but cannot imagine if that would/could occur here with a temp of 13 FGoodness gracious, it's like 9F in Greensboro and probably sleeting
That's a new one
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How warm is the Gulf? Feels really hard to sleet at 9FGoodness gracious, it's like 9F in Greensboro and probably sleeting
That's a new one
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It says “GFS” at the top of the screenIs that from their in house model?
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for the record i think 18z euro could easily verify. it makes synoptic sense and has been a failure mode for us in the past. personally i think its north jump took a lot of right things to happen and it will come down to earth but it may not. i would not let a solid icon run rebut the idea that the euro family of models hasId say the 18z GFS and 18z Euro op are both guilty of sippin tonight. Just differnt flavors of moonshine. We want see another 30 incher, as much id like to. And we aint getting a triple phaser.
better than a smidge eastThe GFS is unchanged through 30. The ULL is actually a smidge west. Not enough to change anything at this point though
Triple phasing though? We never see that…if we lose the storm to a triple phase I’m going to actually crash out. And by “lose the storm” I mean the snow because ice just sucks.for the record i think 18z euro could easily verify. it makes synoptic sense and has been a failure mode for us in the past. personally i think its north jump took a light of thinks right to happen and it will come down to earth but it may not. i would not let a solid icon run rebut the idea that the euro family of models has
Most models have gotten the Baja lows the euro just triple phased and went nuclear on the WAAIf the ICON snatched the Baja low, what made it stay so cold?
December, 2002? That might’ve been mid 20’s. Still a nasty storm.I've seen freezing rain in the Triangle at 21 F but cannot imagine if that would/could occur here with a temp of 13 F
That’s surprising to have the warm nose that deep then. At the same time frame, the Icon has the freezing line pushed all the to the coast of both NC/SC… the only spots in the Carolinas still above freezing is the extreme southern tip of SC and the Outer BanksThis ICON warm nose is nuts for RDU. 2km deep and in the 40s above the surface but at 17F at ground level.
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How warm is the Gulf? Feels really hard to sleet at 9F