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Pattern January Joke

The theme this winter is the lack of any really water feed. Promises dampen out. We are in a drought and this makes sense. Not even receiving measurable rain systems. Maybe his changes soon.,.really soon
That ICON map I posted would probably verify. Drought begets drought.
 
Things feel so bleak for the foothills of WNC and the upstate. We see the mountains snow fairly regularly, we’ve missed snow to our east 3 years in a row. It’s a rough drought we’re in right now.
Agreed but we're about to hit a good spot with MJO in phase 7-8 and plenty of cold air to our North with a transition to el-nino next month. 93 had no snow until the blizzard. We have plenty of time left. All it takes is one good storm to hit average around here.
 
Based on this GEFS PNA prog, the Jan PNA is very likely going to end up a net+ once again after a -ENSO Dec -PNA, which has been the case every time since 1983-4. It will rise to ~0 MTD 1/20. With mainly +PNA from there to the EOM, this would end a net +:

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Sadly for us ATL folks, even though this system has shown up a ton now on both GFS and Euro, it never seems cold enough down into GA and all we get is rain. Hope it changes but… so far ATL is out of it.
We are going to need to see a bit better cold press out of the ensembles to get areas further south more firmly in the game. Still time!
 
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Sadly for us ATL folks, even though this system has shown up a ton now on both GFS and Euro, it never seems cold enough down into GA and all we get is rain. Hope it changes but… so far ATL is out of it.
I wouldn't sweat surface print outs just yet. Just as I am not assuming this trends north & west from mby. Plenty of time to sort those things out. We have a decent signal out there now consistently through several runs. That's the big take away.
 
The pattern for late January and early February looks stunning for someone living in southern Illinois. But also for the SE I could see a large scale winter storm setting up across the country around January 25-30

Lots of cold sprawled out across the country and an active southern stream .. yummy

More than likely a great pattern for winter weather in the upper south territories and CAD regions. But that’s how it normally goes anyway right?
 
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Would need a 50/50 to help keep this 1029 H anchored. With that look the cold should be much more pronounced. Either the cold source is too weak or it's eroding very quickly. Need to slow it down and get a better cold push to the SW.
 
Have to think that next weekend has decent enough potential to get more attention than it is around here. Probably some kind of miller b mess but take em if you got em

Miller B is just the way we do it now. Miller A/B is the most ideal we hope for. I'll take a couple inches of sleet on top of a couple inches of snow any day.

bark bark woof woof. 25th-28th calling?

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Look at that high pressure sprawling up top everywhere. Very nice to see.
 
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I am impressed and somewhat surprised by the persistence of this -NAO regime in the extended. I thought a few weeks ago we’d see things take a break for a bit at the end of January (lol that’s obviously not going to happen) & I definitely would have thought we would be seeing things flip positively or signs of it by this point in the winter.

The reason the -NAO is so strong and persistent here is we are still likely feeling the effects of that early winter stratospheric warming event with another big hit to the lower stratosphere (wave 2) at the end of January putting even more pressure on the polar vortex.

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Good times are gonna keep rolling pattern wise. Just need to take advantage of it
 
Just my opinion, and some might disagree, but if we don’t see the Southern stream get active it will be hard to trust any models showing any winter type qpf from a short wave!
 
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Euro AIFS wants to give us a super clipper in the subject timeframe. Meh. This run didn't have any Miller A/B southern storms that i could see.

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Just my opinion, and some might disagree, but if we don’t see the Southern stream get active it will be hard to trust any models showing any winter type wolf from a short wave!
I agree. The theme has been to reflect more moisture in the forecast than what actually matriculates. Hope this fading 'nina (neutral yet?) will help true up the precip forecasts more realistically
 
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