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The energy over ND appears to be influencing the evolution of the larger longwave
The energy over ND appears to be influencing the evolution of the larger longwave

That's why those eye-popping NAM runs were so good yesterday, brought precip in early enough in the day that it could stave off the diurnal swing enough to keep things snowy. The narrow path to any sort of small victory here isAsking for dynamic cooling to save you midday when the cold air isn’t here to begin with is a recipe for disaster.
ok ok we get it warm = bad lolPrecip starting overnight with surface temps in the low-middle 40s SE of the Triad?!
Yeah that’s usually not gonna work
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On the bright side, at least the rain will help alleviate the drought somewhat because we definitely need any moisture we can get warm or otherwise.Precip starting overnight with surface temps in the low-middle 40s SE of the Triad?!
Yeah that’s usually not gonna work
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What do we need to do for you to start adding some happy thoughts brother?And as others pointed out, also have favorable jet dynamics for precip sat night. Just ugly lol
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Nailed it right there! Without some blocking to slow the pattern and let cold build in this cold chasing..never works for 90% of this board. Maybe 1 more shot this month when we get a true -nao...if it verifies(big IF)This whole setup in the carolinas is the definition of cold chasing moisture. Blargh
I dont think .06 is going to be helpfulOn the bright side, at least the rain will help alleviate the drought somewhat because we definitely need any moisture we can get warm or otherwise.
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A touch of blocking would have made a world of difference. The pattern is super fast/progressive. Sw's simply don't have time to go neutral/amplify.
This model at least gave me a bit of hope for this morning until I checked the soundings which show most of that over northern GA is not reaching the ground. The FV3 did the same thing last year (1/21) with neglecting to take into account the dry layer of air at the surface and got my hopes up for basically nothing. This event would have a slightly less dry pocket of air aloft for these same areas though, so it would take less moisture to overcome the dry nose.To my previous post point on the progression
FV3 is a little slower and further West then latest NAM. You have "Rain/Snow" briefly popping up into North Central GA before tapering off and then Sunday morning snow orientation is up thru GA/into Carolina
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I’ve seen it snow and accumulate 2-3” at 39 degrees but it wasn’t from a drizzle band
Some of us should still still have hope. 12z rfsThis model at least gave me a bit of hope for this morning until I checked the soundings which show most of that over northern GA is not reaching the ground. The FV3 did the same thing last year (1/21) with neglecting to take into account the dry layer of air at the surface and got my hopes up for basically nothing. This event would have a slightly less dry pocket of air aloft for these same areas though, so it would take less moisture to overcome the dry nose.

I would suspect that a narrow corridor still overlaps this enough to get at least a dusting if not a little more.
If parts of FL get snow in consecutive years while the southern upstate is shutout, welcome to the UPSIDE DOWN.View attachment 184175There is hope
Hmm, that’s an improvement over recent runs, I think? (Not that that’s saying much)
A.closer look at soundings show this band over north ga is likely snow or would change over after the surface cools.Crazy nephew. So close here. Such a tease.
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With that look if you did see the precip shield expand 50 miles northwest, a lot of places that were going to be bone dry would get a nice light snow event. The areas already seeing the moisture would be experiencing a steady snow despite that showing rain.Crazy nephew. So close here. Such a tease.
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honestly i think this might not end up being too far fetched for the carolinas as far as areas that see flakes in the air. that sorta NE CLT to north of RDU line that shows up there is the best chance to get a D-0.5" in NC imo. for me the uncertainty feels higher in SC. you could get a sort of curve around the midlands as cold can lag moreso there with Fropa. questions also arrive further east/NE in NC

Toccoa warm bubble never loses. It’s why this angle of cold just doesn’t works in the shadow of the alps. Never has and never willI am surprised the cold air lag isn't being talked about more in here. It's pretty evident with this system. You can see it well below. The cold airmass is able to scoot under the mountains better & catch up with the moisture which is why it keeps showing snow down deep in GA & into the Panhandle. The delay into the Carolinas makes a couple degree difference in areas of the atmosphere, that delay is a timing killer. View attachment 184190
That's best run yet around these parts, seems plausible and probably ceiling for this one