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Pattern December Doldrums 2025 🎄 ❄️

GFS for one time in your miserable life please be right!!
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iwantsouthernsnow123 said:
I can already tell how this system on the 6th will go.. Probably going to manage to somehow get snow all the way in the upstate, then sit right at the GA SC Border skipping out NE GA.

(Sorta a joke but kinda true with how things go around here.)
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I highly doubt it reaches nw sc as my weather is pretty much Toccoas weather. Give me a true cad and a gulf low
 
Oconeexman said:
I highly doubt it reaches nw sc as my weather is pretty much Toccoas weather. Give me a true cad and a gulf low
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In this situation, it may be able to. the GSP region doesn't look terrible overall, very close call. Could see the mix line possibly somewhere in there. However as far as toccoa goes, It looks like it's going to be just out of reach of decent 700-925mb. Could trend up? Maybe, Likely? No
 
jackendrickwx said:
drizzle has turned to snizzle with mood flakes flying in the high country this evening
and how about banner elk defying the odds. looks like it could be more than a dusting at this point there.
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This is at my condo up on Beech right now. Nice surprise to end the day.
 

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ChrisAMB said:
Y'all are in just about the worst place to get snow that otherwise "should" get snow. Something about being on the lee side of the mountains in far NE Georgia and far NW South Carolina just doesn't lend itself to snow. Ice certainly with CAD, but lacking in snow.
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Actually it's been the opposite lately. We haven't had a big ice storm here in a very long time. Matter of fact we don't get any winter weather at all anymore it seems. GSP always since records pretty much began got a double digit snowfall year about once every five years. Now its been 32 years since one so it seems it may not happen again in my lifetime. It actually used to snow here. At one point the all time yearly average was 7.7 inches. Not even sure what that is anymore, but the 30 year average is 4.7 inches now. Still higer than CLT. And thats going to tumble after this decade. The 90s which is the least snowiest decade had 39 inches or 3.9 average. This decade so far? I've had about 9 inches and the decade is half over. And 6.5 of that was one storm. So on track to finish less than 20 inches or half as much as the 90s. Absolutely pathetic and almost no words for it. Trust me, all the whining and crying from the upstate crowd is warranted.
 
RainlessSnowless & Grumpy said:
Actually it's been the opposite lately. We haven't had a big ice storm here in a very long time. Matter of fact we don't get any winter weather at all anymore it seems. GSP always since records pretty much began got a double digit snowfall year about once every five years. Now its been 32 years since one so it seems it may not happen again in my lifetime. It actually used to snow here. At one point the all time yearly average was 7.7 inches. Not even sure what that is anymore, but the 30 year average is 4.7 inches now. Still higer than CLT. And thats going to tumble after this decade. The 90s which is the least snowiest decade had 39 inches or 3.9 average. This decade so far? I've had about 9 inches and the decade is half over. And 6.5 of that was one storm. So on track to finish less than 20 inches or half as much as the 90s. Absolutely pathetic and almost no words for it. Trust me, all the whining and crying from the upstate crowd is warranted.
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My man! I couldn't of said it any better!
 
Tarheel1 said:
Here’s the cold air associated with the 1065mb high at the end happy hour GFSView attachment 177771
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That’s the kind of HP you want to see with a phase 8/stratwarm/ polar vortex lobe dropping south, we’ve seen this stuff before. I know it’s an OP run, but it just shows what kind of an airmass you can get with those factors I mentioned come into play.


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CNCsnwfan1210 said:
That’s the kind of HP you want to see with a phase 8/stratwarm/ polar vortex lobe dropping south, we’ve seen this stuff before. I know it’s an OP run, but it just shows what kind of an airmass you can get with those factors I mentioned come into play.


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The euro and gfs has been showing really cold air at times in runs.
 
RainlessSnowless & Grumpy said:
Actually it's been the opposite lately. We haven't had a big ice storm here in a very long time. Matter of fact we don't get any winter weather at all anymore it seems. GSP always since records pretty much began got a double digit snowfall year about once every five years. Now its been 32 years since one so it seems it may not happen again in my lifetime. It actually used to snow here. At one point the all time yearly average was 7.7 inches. Not even sure what that is anymore, but the 30 year average is 4.7 inches now. Still higer than CLT. And thats going to tumble after this decade. The 90s which is the least snowiest decade had 39 inches or 3.9 average. This decade so far? I've had about 9 inches and the decade is half over. And 6.5 of that was one storm. So on track to finish less than 20 inches or half as much as the 90s. Absolutely pathetic and almost no words for it. Trust me, all the whining and crying from the upstate crowd is warranted.
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Well said my man! I guess we are to the point that at least we got to see and enjoy the snowy late 70's through the late 80's. Had some awesome snow "weeks" out of school back then.
 
18z gfs shows how fluid and touchy the west coast gets towards mid month. Typical la nina game we are playing here, wouldn't be surprised to see some massive arctic shots on the models post D10 along with the next run being near record highs. I want to see if this period of western trough and eastern ridge may be enough to try to at least attempt to kick off a -nao
 
Oconeexman said:
Well said my man! I guess we are to the point that at least we got to see and enjoy the snowy late 70's through the late 80's. Had some awesome snow "weeks" out of school back then.
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I live in Greenwood and I can associate a good snow storm with every year I was in school from about the 4th grade through the 12th grade, and an ice storm thrown in there some years too. But then, that was during the great winters of the 60's and 70's. It was just easier for it to snow around here back then.
 
NCwx1992 said:
if central NC gets a blockbuster event on the anniversary of the last REALLY good snowstorm we had (Dec 8-9 2018), that'd be all kinds of marvelous
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It would seem quite possible considering the indices:

- rising -NAO
- rising -AO
- weak MJO phase 8 (near or inside circle)
- quick +PNA spike
 
Man only if the western ridge was taller. Not gonna be easy with how the flow is, -NAO is trying to slow things down but the trough over AK trough Canada is pancaking the western ridge, and making the flow faster, not a huge believer in this one tbh, but I could be wrong and I hope I am, the surface pattern is mint honestly with the trailing high following the low in SE Canada but if there’s issues it’s the wave itself IMG_0257.pngIMG_0256.png
 
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