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Why on earth is anyone still arguing against masks in public? It's not a permanent thing, only temporary in order to control the spread of disease. There is literally no medical/scientific body that suggests NOT wearing masks. Only right wing politicians for some reason. If you are a patriotic American why in the world would you want to help spread the disease and put pressure on hospitals by exceeding their capacities? Seems antisocial behavior to me. Pure lack of empathy and concern for the society you live in.
 
esking76 said:
Exactly. Come on guys, this is why it keeps getting locked. If you want to discuss the politics of covid, then wait for the politics thread to unlock, shouldn't be long now.

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Still mulling over how to make that thread work
 
Snowfan said:
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Ugh....

This is the literal equivalent of the federal government trying to step in and barring individual states, local jurisdictions, or businesses from issuing their own rules/regulations on how they should implement mask rules.

This sort of egotistical totalitarianism is going to blow up in Kemp's face
 
SD said:
38k deaths in car crashes in 2019 138k from covid numbers are fun
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Make sure you deduct the ones that died in a car crash that were positive for COVID and then counted in COVID death column. The seatbelt comparison is flawed. The state should not be allowed to mandate that you wear a seatbelt, I think that is unconstitutional. I choose to wear one because they actually make sense and may save my life (and may already have a few times). Wearing a mask when I am not sick will not safe my life or anyone else’s life. I don’t wear a seatbelt because the state tells me to, I wear it because of the protection for my life. Nobody wears a seatbelt so that their body avoids killing someone in a car accident. Our freedoms have been eroded little by little until now we are at full gestapo activity. The time for words is quickly coming to an end.
 
ForsythSnow said:
This is stupid. Implement a ban and start suing cities because of it. Georgia's going to look like a disgrace for handling the virus now that he's making it even more political.
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Mask wearing has always been political. You can’t lie to the public and then expect them to believe a few months later. You are a fool to believe them.
 
weatherfide said:
Make sure you deduct the ones that died in a car crash that were positive for COVID and then counted in COVID death column. The seatbelt comparison is flawed. The state should not be allowed to mandate that you wear a seatbelt, I think that is unconstitutional. I choose to wear one because they actually make sense and may save my life (and may already have a few times). Wearing a mask when I am not sick will not safe my life or anyone else’s life. I don’t wear a seatbelt because the state tells me to, I wear it because of the protection for my life. Nobody wears a seatbelt so that their body avoids killing someone in a car accident. Our freedoms have been eroded little by little until now we are at full gestapo activity. The time for words is quickly coming to an end.
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I will say riding the bike with no helmet in Florida is fun and freaks me out at the same time.
 
SETNwx said:
Why on earth is anyone still arguing against masks in public? It's not a permanent thing, only temporary in order to control the spread of disease. There is literally no medical/scientific body that suggests NOT wearing masks. Only right wing politicians for some reason. If you are a patriotic American why in the world would you want to help spread the disease and put pressure on hospitals by exceeding their capacities? Seems antisocial behavior to me. Pure lack of empathy and concern for the society you live in.
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Are you going to make the same argument for vaccines? My body, my choice!
 
SETNwx said:
Why on earth is anyone still arguing against masks in public? It's not a permanent thing, only temporary in order to control the spread of disease. There is literally no medical/scientific body that suggests NOT wearing masks. Only right wing politicians for some reason. If you are a patriotic American why in the world would you want to help spread the disease and put pressure on hospitals by exceeding their capacities? Seems antisocial behavior to me. Pure lack of empathy and concern for the society you live in.
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Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. I have heard no compelling reasons why TEMPORARILY having to wear a mask is a bad thing. You can throw up some mess about taking freedom away or whatever, but that's silly, unless something like this were to become permanent. Humans are not designed to live their lives behind a mask. But that's neither here nor there right now. We're talking about a temporary protocol that just makes good sense.
 
weatherfide said:
Are you going to make the same argument for vaccines? My body, my choice!
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You're not asking me, but I don't favor mandatory vaccinations at this time. I might could be convinced otherwise down the road. But right now, that feels like an overreach.
 
Rain Cold said:
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. I have heard no compelling reasons why TEMPORARILY having to wear a mask is a bad thing. You can throw up some mess about taking freedom away or whatever, but that's silly, unless something like this were to become permanent. Humans are not designed to live their lives behind a mask. But that's neither here nor there right now. We're talking about a temporary protocol that just makes good sense.
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If we mandate mask shouldn’t we open everything up? I don’t understand the whole mandating masks along with closing things down.
 
NoSnowATL said:
If we mandate mask shouldn’t we open everything up? I don’t understand the whole mandating masks along with closing things down.
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Everything is kind of broad. I'm in favor of opening up as much as is possible. But things like gyms and restaurants might be difficult, as you can't wear masks while eating and working out. Those are just two examples I can think of off the top of my head.
 
Rain Cold said:
Everything is kind of broad. I'm in favor of opening up as much as is possible. But things like gyms and restaurants might be difficult, as you can't wear masks while eating and working out. Those are just two examples I can think of off the top of my head.
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Yea eating with a mask on is hard but I have seen guys with mask on working out.
 
I can’t believe we’re still arguing over masks. It’s over guys. I hate to break it to you, but there’s just not going to be a safe vaccine this year. I actually think we could see some hybrids before they get it done. The situation is actually worse than 1918, and the urgency and scale of this global crisis makes climate change look like a joke. In Spanish flu pandemic, people were logistically unable to travel from their homes and regions. It took years to accomplish the type of spread we’re seeing today, and multiple evolutions in varying regions, as well as multiple recombinations with strains in tropical and temperate climate before it even reached the U.S. Just look at the map. We’ve outdone ourselves repeating history.
https://africacenter.org/spotlight/lessons-1918-1919-spanish-flu-africa/
 
Rain Cold said:
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out. I have heard no compelling reasons why TEMPORARILY having to wear a mask is a bad thing. You can throw up some mess about taking freedom away or whatever, but that's silly, unless something like this were to become permanent. Humans are not designed to live their lives behind a mask. But that's neither here nor there right now. We're talking about a temporary protocol that just makes good sense.
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A guy on another forum made a thread specifically targeting this question. I will not post it here due to its political nature but I'll PM it to you.
 
This article is about 2 weeks old but we sure as heck didn't hear about this admission.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Los Angeles mayor admits protests caused a spike in coronavirus cases

During a press conference, LA Mayor Eric Garcetti admitted health officials have determined that recent protests may have contributed to a spike in coronavirus cases in the city.
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ForsythSnow said:
Yes but if you're a carrier or sick, keep your body away from everyone else's. We don't want it.
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Even if you received a vaccination, you should keep away from people. They don't even know if you'll have those anti-bodies a month or two after you're vaccinations. In the moderna press release, antibodies started to drop at the end of the study.
 
Webberweather53 said:
On a weather/covid related note, I can't even begin to fathom the kind of logistical and/or humanitarian nightmare a large-scale hurricane evacuation this season would pose during the middle of a pandemic where people are encouraged to stay at home.
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Wow, I can't even imagine what that would look like. Lot's of elderly folks would risk dying and would not leave their homes.
 
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