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packfan98
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As much as I hope the growth in new cases in certain areas is leveling off, I am suspicious of Sunday numbers. If I recall correctly, the past couple of weeks have had similar looks for some regions, but the Monday numbers would be significantly higher.
Overweight people by far are suffering the most when looking at other countries data. I’m surprised the CDC has not strongly encouraged eating healthier and exercising more specifically as a corona measure.
And the fact they are telling people to not get tested if they have only mild symptoms. People demean China for it but we are following China’s lead. China is not truthful but I still agree with Bill Gates on trusting and working with China in many many aspects.
Appears to be significant delay over the weekend causing Monday numbers to be larger.
ForsythSnow
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Yeah the Georgia numbers yesterday evening weren't that impressive as other days. I feel like the weekend the speed they process cases drops or something. The new numbers for us will be out any minute.
Snow_chaser
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Georgia up to 2809 cases and 87 deaths. 707 now hospitalized.
dph.georgia.gov
COVID-19 Status Report
These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.
I may be wrong but flattening the curve doesn't lead to less people catching it. It just spreads it out so that the hospitals can keep up. Correct?
packfan98
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Big drop in Italy's new cases today! Great news!
Snow_chaser
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I noticed something on Georgia numbers, from the report at 7 last night there is 126 additional cases, but the test count basically stayed the same. Do you think there’s an error there or possibly no entered new tests in the data and its 126 new cases from backlogged tests?Georgia up to 2809 cases and 87 deaths. 707 now hospitalized.
COVID-19 Status Report
These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.
pcbjr
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smast16
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Great video simulating an Epidemic, and how hand washing and social distancing effect the numbers and the patterns.
pcbjr
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It just keeps getting better and better ...
www.news4jax.com
Florida COVID-19 cases top 5,700; 5th death reported in Clay and 4th in Duval
Florida’s COVID-19 caseload eclipsed 5,000 on Monday, nearly one month after public health officials confirmed the state’s first two cases of coronavirus.
www.news4jax.com
Yellow Snow
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Georgia up to 2809 cases and 87 deaths. 707 now hospitalized.
COVID-19 Status Report
These data represent confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported to the Georgia Department of Public Health.
But there appears to be a decrease in new cases; hopefully this trend continues.
ARCHIVE: The COVID-19 in Georgia Dashboard
This page is no longer updated. An archived count of reported coronavirus cases in Georgia through May 2023 with a county-by-county Georgia map. From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
Shaggy
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But there appears to be a decrease in new cases; hopefully this trend continues.
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ARCHIVE: The COVID-19 in Georgia Dashboard
This page is no longer updated. An archived count of reported coronavirus cases in Georgia through May 2023 with a county-by-county Georgia map. From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.www.ajc.com
This is on purpose. Similar to the delay in beginning testing to avoid high numbers we just simply arent testing enough. Less test, less new cases the better the "public perception" can be influenced.
Louisiana total cases: 4,025. Total hospitalizations is 1,158. Total deaths now 185, up from 151 yesterday.
Snowflowxxl
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Or less people are sick that need to be tested, due to procedures being followed?!
6,984 new cases in New York State and over 200 new deaths since yesterday afternoon.
Is that a real question or are you just trying to make us laugh?
Snowflowxxl
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I would like to know as well? Don’t see how it is funny.
Yellow Snow
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"On purpose"? So you're saying that GDPH is lying?
Dewpoint Dan
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Thanks for backing me up. Cant ask anything on here without getting attacked. I see all these crazy numbers and im just wondering when the social distancing is going to start working.
Snow_chaser
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It’s heating up here in Georgia, some mayors are now planning to put some heat on Gov Kemp
Webberweather53
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In a hand-wavy sense, flattening the curve does not automatically mean more or less total people are eventually affected by the virus in the very long run (due to human behaviors, randomness, etc), it increases their chance of survival however as the healthcare system doesn't become overloaded, decreases the chance for the virus to mutate (into something different or more/less virulent) more rapidly, and provides more opportunity for vaccines and medicines to be developed.
However, the underlying probable-likely reality is, that as you impose increasingly stringent measures to limit the spread of the virus and as the limit of the peak of the number of cases approaches zero, less people in total will actually be infected by the virus to the point where it does in fact go to zero and the chance that nearly the entire population will be infected over time "t" also decreases. Therefore, limiting the spread of the virus actually causes the total number of people affected to go down (see Japan & South Korea for ex). I think a viable analog in nature is black body radiation as a function of temperature. As you increase temperature, the radiation peak heightens & narrows, but the total amount of radiation emitted actually scales up exponentially by a factor of the temperature quarted (to the 4th power).
Obviously, keep in mind that we're dealing w/ people instead of radiation and that the total population isn't necessarily seemingly limitless, s.t. there's an inherent cap on the height and width of the coronavirus case peak, however I think there's legitimate physical reasoning behind the rationale that limiting the spread of the virus actually increases the chance that less people become infected by it.
Undoubtedly, such control measures save millions of lives globally.
Shaggy
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Perhaps. However it's hard to ignore the stay home and dont get tested orders.
Thanks for the detailed answer!
Shaggy
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I think the best way to guess this is by looking at countries that are ahead of us. Italy appears to finally be on the downswing in terms of new cases. It took about 2 weeks and we arent doing what they are as far as regionally large lockdowns. It's still business as usual here sadly.
Webberweather53
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The other important piece of information to keep in mind is that the average population density of the us is considerably lower than countries overseas and we’re just much larger in general, this leads to at least one or more conclusions:
-1) even if we enact the same containment measures it will take considerably longer for the US to peak
-2) an even stronger conclusion is that because of these aforementioned geopolitical characteristics, the downward slide following the peak in cases will take much, much longer to pass in the US & thus all else considered equal, we’ll have to contend with CoV-19 much, much longer overall than other smaller, densely populated European countries
Downeastnc
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Not lying but by not testing as much it will cause a decrease in the daily number of new cases.....would you agree that by limiting who they are willing to test the overall number of new cases would decrease since they are not testing as many people...
As hospitals fight to keep up, they tell mild cases not to seek tests
Underscoring the continued challenges of widespread coronavirus testing, three of Georgia’s largest hospital systems urged people on Monday not to come to hospitals to be tested if they have mild or moderate symptoms.
"Underscoring the continued challenges of widespread coronavirus testing, three of Georgia’s largest hospital systems urged people on Monday not to come to hospitals to be tested if they have mild or moderate symptoms."
It wasn't an attack... it was a legit question. You aren't stupid, at all. Obviously, we aren't going to see instant results. And considering that there are still many places that aren't adhering to what everyone is recommending, it may be a while.
France is getting hammered today. 418 deaths reported.
Yea, I've thought about this too. On one hand, our urban metros are more spread out than countries overseas so we likely won't see the explosive growth per capita that Europe has seen.
On the other hand, our less dense metros are spread out all across the nation. The US has 53 metros of 1 million or more. That's a lot of...opportunity for this to stay around somewhere for longer. It might result in less spread per capita initially, but more spread over a greater amount of time. (as you mentioned).
Yellow Snow
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Not lying but by not testing as much it will cause a decrease in the daily number of new cases.....would you agree that by limiting who they are willing to test the overall number of new cases would decrease since they are not testing as many people...
As hospitals fight to keep up, they tell mild cases not to seek tests
Underscoring the continued challenges of widespread coronavirus testing, three of Georgia’s largest hospital systems urged people on Monday not to come to hospitals to be tested if they have mild or moderate symptoms.
"Underscoring the continued challenges of widespread coronavirus testing, three of Georgia’s largest hospital systems urged people on Monday not to come to hospitals to be tested if they have mild or moderate symptoms."
From what I've read, this protocol is being practiced in a lot of places besides Georgia. Regardless, I imagine that it should become clearer - one way or the other - by the end of the coming week.
Speaking of which, anyone have any thoughts on how the cold front that's moving into the Southeast tonight might affect the situation? I seem to recall reading something about sudden large temperature variances exacerbating the incidence of sickness during the Spring flu season, but I can't find it.
Tampa megachurch crowded with worshipers, despite social distancing orders
Cheers and applause could be heard on a Tampa megachurch's livestream Sunday from a few hundred people inside The River at Tampa Bay Church. The church is refusing to close its doors despite a "safer at home" order in effect in Hillsborough County.
THIS... this right here is why the gov't is stepping in and "taking away civil rights" according to some of you. I am glad he's going to jail.
My own hometown has a similar church, but this one doesn't even try to implement social distancing or sanitizing for the service. Just sad. It's not very loving of others when they gather by the hundreds like that. I'm also a Christian, but we have our church online.Tampa megachurch crowded with worshipers, despite social distancing orders
Cheers and applause could be heard on a Tampa megachurch's livestream Sunday from a few hundred people inside The River at Tampa Bay Church. The church is refusing to close its doors despite a "safer at home" order in effect in Hillsborough County.www.fox13news.com
THIS... this right here is why the gov't is stepping in and "taking away civil rights" according to some of you. I am glad he's going to jail.
https://www.ksla.com/2020/03/26/bat...welcomes-large-gathering-into-church-service/
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