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A little perspective for you this morning. CDC data from 2018 indicates that heart disease and cancer are the leading causes of death for the U.S. nearly 1,000,000 die every year. Add in diabetes, chronic lower respiratory diseases and you will see my point. Most of these afflictions kill about the same number of Americans every year. Where was the public panic over these? Why are we still allowed to stuff our faces with garbage foods? Why hasn't the government swooped in to keep us from dying from these ailments? Now overlay Covid-19 and you can see that the mortality from this virus is strongly associated with these afflictions I just named above. People afflicted with these will be most of the people dying from Covid-19. Co-morbidity shouldn't mean we shut down the economy. Brace for more dead than a usual year, for sure, but don't shut down the economy for this! Even if 2.2 million die, a large portion of those victims would likely have died within three years, anyway. We need to stop the panic and get back to work!
 
weatherfide said:
The Great Depression caused the nationalist uprising in Germany that launched hitler to power. All things are related. Without the depression, would hitler have had a platform to win support? Probably not.
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Errmm,, No, it was the sanctions placed on Germany by the Allied powers in the treaty of Versailles that led to Germany's Depression (including the loss of life and ruin from the war itself). These Sanctions, including the forfiture of valuable land to France, being enforced with armed troops from France, that directly led the Nationalist uprising (Hitler) in Germany.
 
weatherfide said:
A little perspective for you this morning. CDC data from 2018 indicates that heart disease and cancer are the leading causes of death for the U.S. nearly 1,000,000 die every year. Add in diabetes, chronic lower respiratory diseases and you will see my point. Most of these afflictions kill about the same number of Americans every year. Where was the public panic over these? Why are we still allowed to stuff our faces with garbage foods? Why hasn't the government swooped in to keep us from dying from these ailments? Now overlay Covid-19 and you can see that the mortality from this virus is strongly associated with these afflictions I just named above. People afflicted with these will be most of the people dying from Covid-19. Co-morbidity shouldn't mean we shut down the economy. Brace for more dead than a usual year, for sure, but don't shut down the economy for this! Even if 2.2 million die, a large portion of those victims would likely have died within three years, anyway. We need to stop the panic and get back to work!
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Except the coronavirus packs "a year's worth of risk into a few weeks", these chronic conditions are spread out over much, much longer periods of time, we know how to treat and prevent them (healthy diet, exercise, medicine, etc), and they're not a new existential threat to the US that adds much greater strain than what already exists in the healthcare system. The coronavirus is thus the "straw that breaks the camel's back".
 
Well we are getting low on baby wipes and no stores around here have them in stock because people are buying them and using in place of toilet paper... and amazon canceled our subscribe and save shipment because they're out right now of all baby wipes too... so I manage to find a reasonably priced box of unopened ones on eBay. This is crazy...
 
weatherfide said:
A little perspective for you this morning. CDC data from 2018 indicates that heart disease and cancer are the leading causes of death for the U.S. nearly 1,000,000 die every year. Add in diabetes, chronic lower respiratory diseases and you will see my point. Most of these afflictions kill about the same number of Americans every year. Where was the public panic over these? Why are we still allowed to stuff our faces with garbage foods? Why hasn't the government swooped in to keep us from dying from these ailments? Now overlay Covid-19 and you can see that the mortality from this virus is strongly associated with these afflictions I just named above. People afflicted with these will be most of the people dying from Covid-19. Co-morbidity shouldn't mean we shut down the economy. Brace for more dead than a usual year, for sure, but don't shut down the economy for this! Even if 2.2 million die, a large portion of those victims would likely have died within three years, anyway. We need to stop the panic and get back to work!
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This is up there with dewpoint dan and Mathew70. Congratulations on joining the club.
 
Webberweather53 said:
Except the coronavirus packs "a year's worth of risk into a few weeks", these chronic conditions are spread out over much, much longer periods of time, we know how to treat and prevent them (healthy diet, exercise, medicine, etc), and they're not a new existential threat to the US that adds much greater strain than what already exists in the healthcare system. The coronavirus is thus the "straw that breaks the camel's back".
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These chronic health conditions like heart attack, stroke, diabetes, etc. can be thought of as "popcorn" summertime thunderstorms, which in their own right, are in many ways dangerous and over long periods of time, provide the main source of rainfall in the summer to the SE US, however we generally know how to contend and prepare for them. The coronavirus oth, is equivalent to a large, lumbering hurricane that provides an entire season or year's worth of rainfall in a matter of a few days, often decimating the hardest hit areas. Sure, airmass thunderstorms occur much more frequently, collectively provide more rainfall over time than hurricanes, and will affect more people, but the existential threat and rate of rainfall a hurricane provides completely overloads the local earth system's capacity to contain the rainfall in much of the same way coronavirus is doing to our healthcare system in many of the hardest hit areas of the US.
 
smast16 said:
He didn't send the first tweet and then go chase, the opposite Look at the time stamps! He chased, and the TWO days later tweeted out about Quarantines.

This post is misleading for clicks.
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How exactly does the sequence of events make this individual any less hypocritical towards storm chasers, given that he actually chased in a very densely populated area within a few days of said statement?
 
Webberweather53 said:
More like cherry picking at its finest.

It really doesn't matter what order the events occurred in because in the end, he's still a massive hypocrite regardless of whether the chicken came before the egg or not.




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So, you're admitting you cherry picked data, to present a false narrative to generate 'Likes'?

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Webberweather53 said:
How exactly does the sequence of events make this individual any less hypocritical towards storm chasers, given that he actually chased in a very densely populated area within a few days of said statement?
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Because in the original post you presented it as if he first threatened to track people and then proceeded to storm chase right after that when in reality that's not how it happened. Smast16 was just pointing out that the sequence described was not accurately depicted is all.
 
Broken024 said:
This is up there with dewpoint dan and Mathew70. Congratulations on joining the club.
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Yeah, it was a little over the top but I get the point. A lot of the deaths are being reported as covid 19 deaths when a lot of them it was probably just a contributor. To what degree is another question.
 
snowlover91 said:
Because in the original post you presented it as if he first threatened to track people and then proceeded to storm chase right after that when in reality that's not how it happened. Smast16 was just pointing out that the sequence described was not accurately depicted is all.
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How exactly does the sequence of events not make the dude look like he's a complete hypocrite? That's really the point here, not some cherry-pick of my tweet. It also could have been pointed out w/ more civility but I expected nothing less from this thread.
 
Webberweather53 said:
How exactly does the sequence of events not make the dude look like he's a completely hypocrite? That's really the point here, not some cherry-pick of my tweet. It also could have been pointed out w/ more civility but I expected nothing less from this thread.
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I'm not trying to say if it's hypocritical or not of the storm chaser, just that the presentation of the sequence of events was different from how they happened is all. I don't really follow storm chasers or Twitter so I don't really have an opinion on the storm chaser one way or another.
 
snowlover91 said:
I'm not trying to say if it's hypocritical or not of the storm chaser, just that the presentation of the sequence of events was different from how they happened is all. I don't really follow storm chasers or Twitter so I don't really have an opinion on the storm chaser one way or another.
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To be fair, I don’t think Webb was presenting it as if those tweets were in chronological order. I knew they weren’t because I paid attention to the dates.
 
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