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Snowfan said:
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Its crazy that they allow him to go on stage and ramble nonsense like this. The facts are that the strait is closed unless Iran wants to allow a ship to pass...that is not changing anytime soon. Iran is fine to wait till global supply issues force gas prices to the moon. Nothing we're doing right now IRT Iran makes any sense.
 
Downeastnc said:
Its crazy that they allow him to go on stage and ramble nonsense like this. The facts are that the strait is closed unless Iran wants to allow a ship to pass...that is not changing anytime soon. Iran is fine to wait till global supply issues force gas prices to the moon. Nothing we're doing right now IRT Iran makes any sense.
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He shouldn't say stuff like this, but he's done it for 10 years. He says stuff just to get everybody undone. Happens like clockwork.
 
EmersonGA said:
Anybody tried running the ethanol crap in a "flex fuel" engine? I don't think I would ever do it after seeing what it does to my small engine carbs but just curious?
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Again, I think it’s hilarious they we all know ethanol gums up small engines and probably isn’t the absolute best for your cars engine either! But up here in land of corn and weirdos; ethanol is great and they push it soooooo hard it’s ridiculous, because it’s from corn
 
Shaggy said:
No he says stuff to continue feeding his followers and to manipulate the markets. Those 2 things are always his agenda
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Buts lets just be honest, manipulation requires a smart person tricking dumb or ignorant people.

But this point, there is no way the markets are ignorant or dumb enough to be manipulated.
 
Arcc said:
Buts lets just be honest, manipulation requires a smart person tricking dumb or ignorant people.

But this point, there is no way the markets are ignorant or dumb enough to be manipulated.
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Manipulation only requires powerful people making powerful announcements and the going TACO. Intelligence doesn't have much to do with it.
 
Shaggy said:
Manipulation only requires powerful people making powerful announcements and the going TACO. Intelligence doesn't have much to do with it.
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Why would people risk money believing the TACO? To risk money like that is sheer stupidity.

I could understand your logic like three months ago. For the same people to fall for the same manipulation in a global market, this many times, is extremely unlikely.

The big trading firms aren't full of joes like us and if we are smart enough to see it, I'm sure they probably get a little more info than we do.
 
Tarheel1 said:
Again, I think it’s hilarious they we all know ethanol gums up small engines and probably isn’t the absolute best for your cars engine either! But up here in land of corn and weirdos; ethanol is great and they push it soooooo hard it’s ridiculous, because it’s from corn
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its the tiny inlets in a small engines carburetor, doesnt take much at all to clog it. cars have defenses for it.
 
Arcc said:
Buts lets just be honest, manipulation requires a smart person tricking dumb or ignorant people.

But this point, there is no way the markets are ignorant or dumb enough to be manipulated.
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theyre still investing in ai..... they are def dumb
 
Arcc said:
Why would people risk money believing the TACO? To risk money like that is sheer stupidity.

I could understand your logic like three months ago. For the same people to fall for the same manipulation in a global market, this many times, is extremely unlikely.

The big trading firms aren't full of joes like us and if we are smart enough to see it, I'm sure they probably get a little more info than we do.
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There is no risk they have insider info now and know what and when ( for a extra 100k) stuff is gonna be said. The market is more than happy to be manipulated right now, especially since the main driving force for the manipulation is literally the Trump admin. Oil companies are loving it, the price is high enough to drive massive profits but not high enough to get demand destruction to a level that it hurts....but they know that day is coming because Trump is stuck with Iran and the SPR is getting low, eventually the price of oil will climb and the price at the pumps will skyrocket, and it will take months and months to stabilize and fix so gas near $4 is the new normal all thanks to Trump. US oil production will level off and or drop once that starts and then when it is finally over we will have supply problems to repair the low reserves. The only real path back to cheap gas is new refineries, especially in the US, built to consume oil drilled here in the US.....even if they broke ground on new refineries today it would take 5 years for them to come online, but zero interest in doing so from US oil companies.

But hey Trump says suck it up buttercup...he was just kidding when he promised gas under $2

 
Downeastnc said:
There is no risk they have insider info now and know what and when ( for a extra 100k) stuff is gonna be said. The market is more than happy to be manipulated right now, especially since the main driving force for the manipulation is literally the Trump admin. Oil companies are loving it, the price is high enough to drive massive profits but not high enough to get demand destruction to a level that it hurts....but they know that day is coming because Trump is stuck with Iran and the SPR is getting low, eventually the price of oil will climb and the price at the pumps will skyrocket, and it will take months and months to stabilize and fix so gas near $4 is the new normal all thanks to Trump. US oil production will level off and or drop once that starts and then when it is finally over we will have supply problems to repair the low reserves. The only real path back to cheap gas is new refineries, especially in the US, built to consume oil drilled here in the US.....even if they broke ground on new refineries today it would take 5 years for them to come online, but zero interest in doing so from US oil companies.

But hey Trump says suck it up buttercup...he was just kidding when he promised gas under $2

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I dont really disagree with most of that, but you cannot blame the entire manipulation of a globally traded commodity on one dude when the entire market is in on the manipulation.
 
Arcc said:
I dont really disagree with most of that, but you cannot blame the entire manipulation of a globally traded commodity on one dude when the entire market is in on the manipulation.
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It's more that instead of fighting the manipulation Trump is complicit in it for his own personal gain. He knows the power his tweets have so much so that he is selling early access to them...again how is that even legal or ethical.
 
Downeastnc said:
It's more that instead of fighting the manipulation Trump is complicit in it for his own personal gain. He knows the power his tweets have so much so that he is selling early access to them...again how is that even legal or ethical.
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Once again this is a silly opinion unless you believe Trump really is either that much smarter than anyone or he is like mind controlling people.

Do you notice something? Where are the democrats calling out this manipulation? Other heads of states? Anyone? I mean the media was making articles about him eating cheeseburgers, yet they are mostly silent. I wonder why?

Trump is just doing his Trump thing trying to be right and take credit. No, the oil market is riding on information we as commoners just do not have.
 
Arcc said:
Once again this is a silly opinion unless you believe Trump really is either that much smarter than anyone or he is like mind controlling people.

Do you notice something? Where are the democrats calling out this manipulation? Other heads of states? Anyone? I mean the media was making articles about him eating cheeseburgers, yet they are mostly silent. I wonder why?

Trump is just doing his Trump thing trying to be right and take credit. No, the oil market is riding on information we as commoners just do not have.
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This is copium....the ole Trump being Trump post. There are plenty of stories and articles on Trump and market manipulation...many many people are calling for investigations into Trump literally selling access to his tweets because he knows they impact the markets.

What information is the oil market riding on? Best i can tell they are trying to force the paper price of oil down by massive releases of reserves and timely tweets hoping this outlast Iran keeping the strait closed. The oil speculators understand exactly what they are doing....when the reserves get low enough we have to stop using them and the strait is still closed oil prices will jump significantly, its almost to late to avoid it at this point. Even if the strait opens up completely tomorrow it would take months to get back to normal.

 
Tarheel1 said:
Again, I think it’s hilarious they we all know ethanol gums up small engines and probably isn’t the absolute best for your cars engine either! But up here in land of corn and weirdos; ethanol is great and they push it soooooo hard it’s ridiculous, because it’s from corn
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Not to be too much of a contrarian, but I've not seen this to be the case in my own stuff over the last decade. Seems to coincide with the low sulphur requirement around 2016/2017. Ethanol is highly detergent itself. We only have 1 gas car left and it sits with a tank of E15 88 octane from the Raceway station for as long as it takes to get a load to take to the dump. Never a drivability issue and it's spotless in the throttle body. Newish Toro push mower runs the E10 87 and never has a problem year after year. I do buy pre mix for my weed eater and blower but only because I use them so little it doesn't make sense to blend my own.

Guy down the road has a late 60s Plymouth running a carb and he says it stays spotless despite not driving it much. I had a Silverado for work in the mid 2010s that I ran a ton of E85 through and never had a single issue. Oil stayed cleaner longer and it only knocked about 2mpg out of it.

IMO a lot of the old issues around small engines were related to poor blends of fuel and sometimes other oxygenates like MTBE. The only thing I'd personally never run ethanol blend in is a boat for obvious reasons.
 
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    All things we could do with the money we send Israel every damn year.
 
It's a cruise missile (it's more of a drone-missile but they classify as a missile) It recently became operational in 2025 but they have been firing it more every month.
 
Arcc said:
The US must control something if Iran is back to threatening to annihilate a blockade of waters they claim.
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Like what? On a good day around 10-15% of normal pre "war" traffic makes it through the strait but most days its significantly less, and much of that is with Iranian approval and for countries Iran wants to get through. Iran continues to attack ships and neighboring countries daily....this is not a defeated enemy but rather Iran pushing its neighbors to back away from their support of the US since the US is unable to stop Iran from attacking them. The Trump admin is flat out lying when they claim control of the strait, or that its safe for passage. All the evidence you need to see that it isn't under US control is the fact that most ships do not attempt transit of the totally safe US protected strait.

The window is closing and every day the oil reduction through the strait compounds and the offset from countries emptying their reserves is going to run out and then Trump will have soaring inflation, gas prices, food prices, a collapsing housing market, etc all headed into November.
 
Downeastnc said:
Like what? On a good day around 10-15% of normal pre "war" traffic makes it through the strait but most days its significantly less, and much of that is with Iranian approval and for countries Iran wants to get through. Iran continues to attack ships and neighboring countries daily....this is not a defeated enemy but rather Iran pushing its neighbors to back away from their support of the US since the US is unable to stop Iran from attacking them. The Trump admin is flat out lying when they claim control of the strait, or that its safe for passage. All the evidence you need to see that it isn't under US control is the fact that most ships do not attempt transit of the totally safe US protected strait.

The window is closing and every day the oil reduction through the strait compounds and the offset from countries emptying their reserves is going to run out and then Trump will have soaring inflation, gas prices, food prices, a collapsing housing market, etc all headed into November.
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If a country can say, "you cannot pass" and you can't break the seige, that country controls the area. Just the way it is.

Now safe for passage is definitely an issue right now, but that is much more akin to guerilla tactics than actual control.

And you are correct about the latter part, but once again, you must assume Trump actually cares, the GOP actually cares or the probably closer truth, the US government probably all agree anyhow and changing political chairs doesn't bother anyone.
 
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