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GaWx said:
Stock futures rise as Trump signals progress in U.S.-Iran war talks: Live updates

Futures tied to the Dow Jones Industrial Average added 357 points, or 0.8%. S&P 500 futures and Nasdaq 100 futures were up 0.8% each.

"The United States of America is in serious discussions with A NEW, AND MORE REASONABLE, REGIME to end our Military Operations in Iran," Trump said in a post on Truth Social on Monday.

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Stock futures rise as Trump signals progress in U.S.-Iran war talks: Live updates

The Dow Jones Industrial Average sank into correction territory on Friday, joining the Nasdaq, which entered a correction the day before.
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Trump is so desperate he will say anything at this point. Just who are these New and Reasonable Iranians? Most likely the same type that murdered thousands of protestors.
 
Arcc said:
Possibly, but we are seeing a constant cycle: Negotiation, balking, another round of higher Iranian officials dead, negotiation, balking, the next rung of higher Iranian officials dead.

While it does not fully get rid of the regime, it may end up the next best thing where the next leaders are much more willing to placate to the west.

Unless the American public wants to go full invasion, considering how little pushback the Iranian public is doing, this is probably best case.

If Trump is correct about negotiations, then we can probably assume Iranian leadership is fractured.
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Im sure they are fractured but i seriously doubt any of them are moderates who only wanted to kill 10,000 protestors. There is too much pressure on Trump now. We are fighting based on the stock market and oil price. This is all going to be for nothing.
 
Sandbar said:
A LOT of people have been fooled by Israel and I have to include myself in that group "to an extent" as my POV just a year ago was still one of a soldier supporting a MILITARY ALLY. Look at how many people are questioning Israel NOW. That isn't by accident. I'm sure to get negative feedback from this and that's ok but I think Trump is exposing them and has known about this threat for sometime. The only clear and decisive way to take the corruption down is to expose it and make people aware so they will begin to question. It's about to get interesting in that area of the world
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I think part of it is that the Jewish people endured a horrific abuse of humanity. What they went through is beyond words.

I think the world has over corrected and now it igores the abuses that Isreal is now committing.

The pendulum has swung to where now we say nothing when doctors without borders reports women and children with single gunshot wounds described as sniper fire. It barely makes the news when they shoot up firetruck and ambulances and bury them in the sand and wait days and days to report it then get caught lying about the circumstances.

We should be allowed to recognize the old atrocities by the Germans and the new atrocities by the Isrealis. Instead any negative mention of isreal is met with immediate attacks against those criticizing them.
 
lexxnchloe said:
Im sure they are fractured but i seriously doubt any of them are moderates who only wanted to kill 10,000 protestors. There is too much pressure on Trump now. We are fighting based on the stock market and oil price. This is all going to be for nothing.
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It's only for nothing for those of us not in position to insider trade. It's worth hundreds of millions to those making these polynsrket bets and stock exchanges minutes before major announcements.
 
lexxnchloe said:
Im sure they are fractured but i seriously doubt any of them are moderates who only wanted to kill 10,000 protestors. There is too much pressure on Trump now. We are fighting based on the stock market and oil price. This is all going to be for nothing.
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Rick Steves did a wonderful travel program on Iran, interviewing people on the streets, and they seem to be a great people under the heel of religious zealot crazies. Why punish them for the nazi's that have them terrorized. Typical of US management to leap before looking. It's easy to attack, but hard to pull back, so when in doubt, and the going gets rough, slap down the weakest, and least enfranchised. Once again a meddling US reaps what it sows. It's Hatfield/McCoy syndrome, and once started does not stop easily. Hate builds on hate, atrocity on atrocity. Any leadership that rules by fear, is not who you want to put your clout behind. Payback for the shah is a mofo.
 
dsaur said:
Rick Steves did a wonderful travel program on Iran, interviewing people on the streets, and they seem to be a great people under the heel of religious zealot crazies. Why punish them for the nazi's that have them terrorized. Typical of US management to leap before looking. It's easy to attack, but hard to pull back, so when in doubt, and the going gets rough, slap down the weakest, and least enfranchised. Once again a meddling US reaps what it sows. It's Hatfield/McCoy syndrome, and once started does not stop easily. Hate builds on hate, atrocity on atrocity. Any leadership that rules by fear, is not who you want to put your clout behind. Payback for the shah is a mofo.
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We aren't punishing them (The people) we are giving them an opportunity to take back what was a beautiful, thriving country at one time. This country AND REGION has no chance whatsoever if we don't do this and neither did the people of Venezuela. The world is on fire and someone was going to have to take it on the chin. The Cabal can not continue to control this planet.......
 
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