Maybe this is the effect of the STRAT warming we had a month or so back ..
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Pattern Novemburrr
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Yeah that’s a pretty good dip there
GEFS got much colder as well .. it’s looking like a cave to the euro … we’re also far enough out to where there could still be location placement different in the coming days and all this will be crucial to our weather
This is why you don’t trust anything even around 240 hours 
SimeonNC
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Oh.
SimeonNC
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Miller B setup with not enough cold air.
240 hours out with that look .. let’s give her time to cook in the oven
Three runs later vs the above, the 0Z EPS remains an almost identical thing of absolute beauty for cold lovers for the same time:
The three main ensemble means have near wall to wall cold in the SE 11/22-3 through 12/1! Get your parkas ready!
The classic triple wave of cold for the E US, Europe, and China is being progged.
The classic triple wave of cold for the E US, Europe, and China is being progged.
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Shaggy
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I'd love to get another event like Dec 3rd 2000 out of this cold look. Won't happen but it's good to see some cold again before christmas.
Downeastnc
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32/32 so first official freezing temp at PGV this fall/winter season....
Webberweather53
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What’s your point? I’m saying you can’t trust anything 240 hours out in both statements lol
Avalanche
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Of course we can't. Models fluctuate like ridges and troughs. I hope for it, though I am not a weenie. I don't expect to have a concrete outcome this far out.
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
The big 3 operational runs all have some kind of cut off low over the Desert SW around day 10 along with a SE ridge. Wonder how long it’ll take for me to screw this up
Avalanche
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Its only fitting Flagstaff or Scottsdale beat me to it.
Operationals vs ensembles ? oh bless the Gfs’s heart
