I've done so much "weather" research on that stupid property. It's hard to find individual data because of not many wx stations around but at 3K feet AND on the lee side I realize during NW snow flow I will get hosed. Not as bad as say...asheville appears, but still. This community is so great at sharing ideas and local knowledge. Thanks!Cedar mountain is a nice little area. Access to DuPont/pisgah/caesars head and the conveniences of Brevard. Get ready to learn NWFS flurries that don’t stick
The time has come. Have any of you old timers (55+) ever said.... I'm moving to the weather that I want. We are looking at property in Dupont (Cedar Mountain, NC. Close to Brevard and Pisgah too) at 3000 feet. Viewed it several times. Even pulled up the weather here in CLT vs there countless times.
I love the mountain biking, hiking and summer temps plus the opportunity for more "Winter" during actual winter
Buy the property and then building.
Anyone else taken that leap with weather ...somewhat in mind?
Enjoy the broiler!
caesar's head station probably the best reliable climate info you'll get. excuse the formatting, i just copied and pasted. this is 1991-2020I've done so much "weather" research on that stupid property. It's hard to find individual data because of not many wx stations around but at 3K feet AND on the lee side I realize during NW snow flow I will get hosed. Not as bad as say...asheville appears, but still. This community is so great at sharing ideas and local knowledge. Thanks!
| Month | Total Precipitation Normal (inches) | Mean Max Temperature Normal (°F) | Mean Min Temperature Normal (°F) | Mean Avg Temperature Normal (°F) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 6.02 | 44.8 | 27.9 | 36.3 |
| February | 4.82 | 48.3 | 30.3 | 39.3 |
| March | 5.17 | 55.9 | 36.6 | 46.3 |
| April | 5.93 | 65.0 | 44.4 | 54.7 |
| May | 6.11 | 70.0 | 53.2 | 61.6 |
| June | 6.93 | 75.0 | 60.4 | 67.7 |
| July | 7.02 | 77.6 | 63.9 | 70.7 |
| August | 6.97 | 76.2 | 62.6 | 69.4 |
| September | 6.62 | 71.1 | 57.6 | 64.3 |
| October | 5.60 | 62.9 | 47.8 | 55.3 |
| November | 5.93 | 54.9 | 38.2 | 46.6 |
| December | 7.08 | 47.6 | 32.1 | 39.9 |
| Annual | 74.20 | 62.4 | 46.3 | 54.3 |
My better half has already scoped out the garden (Mind you on a sloped parcel that we aren't even sure where the house will go!!)Yes - this and for the same reasons. I am planning to retire in the mountains of western Virginia (somewhere around Big Stone Gap, Grundy & Wise). Planning to buy as much timber and land as I can ~ 200-300 acres (maybe more if timber is mature)
Handful of reasons:
1.) 2500' -3000' somewhere in that elevation range - cooler weather overall and more chances for snow and cold + mountain views
2.) Elk population - the herd estimates vary - but between VA and KY - there is a substantial number of animals + deer and bear (hunting)
3.) Cleaner air - less pollution - less people - less noise. I require indefinite peace and quiet at some point in the future
4.) Homesteading - going to give it a go with growing own food, developing natural spring water system for the property
Ding. Ding. That's a great one! I would assume that Ceasars would be bit more severe in the wind/snow events because of the exposure it has versus our lot but this is a great one.caesar's head station probably the best reliable climate info you'll get. excuse the formatting, i just copied and pasted. this is 1991-2020
Month Total Precipitation Normal (inches) Mean Max Temperature Normal (°F) Mean Min Temperature Normal (°F) Mean Avg Temperature Normal (°F) January 6.02 44.8 27.9 36.3 February 4.82 48.3 30.3 39.3 March 5.17 55.9 36.6 46.3 April 5.93 65.0 44.4 54.7 May 6.11 70.0 53.2 61.6 June 6.93 75.0 60.4 67.7 July 7.02 77.6 63.9 70.7 August 6.97 76.2 62.6 69.4 September 6.62 71.1 57.6 64.3 October 5.60 62.9 47.8 55.3 November 5.93 54.9 38.2 46.6 December 7.08 47.6 32.1 39.9 Annual 74.20 62.4 46.3 54.3
some other fun info since i'm at lunch anywaysDing. Ding. That's a great one!
Dang Jack...going deep dive!some other fun info since i'm at lunch anyways
117.29" of rain in 2018, one of 6 100"+ years since '67
all-time low of -19F in jan '85
all-time high of 99F in '83
33.9" of snow in the month of Feb '69... probably a little overdone but yeesh
most reliable way to score there is a CAD banger like jan '22
Pittsburgh is a time capsule, it is the cheapest housing market in the country, and to me it seemed prices there are pre-covid with everything else. I was in shock honestly last time I was up there. I would avoid Allegheny though, high property taxes.We've already made the decision to leave SC once the kiddo is done with school which won't be that far off scary to say. Been here all my life but it's time to move on. Between the over building, lack of government services/infrastructure and ticking property tax time bomb once the boomers pass sway it's not a hard choice. We're looking at western Pennsylvania within about 45 minutes of Pittsburgh.
I agree, 2500-3500 is the ideal elevation for pleasant all around weather in the south.Yes - this and for the same reasons. I am planning to retire in the mountains of western Virginia (somewhere around Big Stone Gap, Grundy & Wise). Planning to buy as much timber and land as I can ~ 200-300 acres (maybe more if timber is mature)
Handful of reasons:
1.) 2500' -3000' somewhere in that elevation range - cooler weather overall and more chances for snow and cold + mountain views
2.) Elk population - the herd estimates vary - but between VA and KY - there is a substantial number of animals + deer and bear (hunting)
3.) Cleaner air - less pollution - less people - less noise. I require indefinite peace and quiet at some point in the future
4.) Homesteading - going to give it a go with growing own food, developing natural spring water system for the property



It hit 102 today in Montana where my friend lives and they don't have AC. So far it's 80 in their house.
It hit ~90 in the mountain valleys of the CO Rockies, but dewpoints were only in the typical 20s. So, that would actually feel pretty darn good. Most in those areas don’t have AC and just rely on fans as I recall from past summer trips there.
@GaWx Do you have any info on the winter of 1987-88? Especially January. I was looking at the records, and January 88 has the two highest snowfall records for White County.
Awesome! Here's hoping that this year's El Nino will produce something similar.Yes. Helen and Cleveland were buried with a historic 15-16” of snow during El Niño from a weak Gulf low!! The bulk of it fell on Jan 8th I believe. Weak Gulf lows have often lead to some of the biggest N GA snows! A little to the S, Gainesville was pummeled with 6” of a mix of sleet with snow! Athens and ATL had a @dsaur special of nearly pure sleet (I think with a little ZR) of 3.5-4” of concrete that stayed for many days with cold. I was in N Springs, N of S Springs and will never forget it! Tony was in absolute heaven! We both can’t get over how great sort is.
@GaWx Do you have any info on the winter of 1987-88? Especially January. I was looking at the records, and January 88 has the two highest snowfall records for White County.
Yeah for one. Going be way to strongJanuary 88 was a basically board wide snowstorm I believe. We had over a foot here
I think at this point that's our best case for winter but there's a lot of really horrible analogs too. I mean some of them barely had any snow here even. I just hope everyone isn't getting their hopes up about the El Nino yet. A lot can go wrong
I always sleep bad the first night somewhere new and it gets progressively better. Now that I'm in my 40s my back is what begins to bother me with a new bed after a few days.I may actually have a rain shield to some extent as I think a miracle occurred and up here in SW NC, the major rain issue will hold off to afternoon.
It's too bad I can't sleep well in hotels without my parents though. Idk how tf I was able to spend most of two years at 18-19 alone, and then spend Thanksgiving weeks with my dad's side of the family without my parents being with me the entire time.
Farewell to SW NC/far upstate SC.
I will be back, hopefully not in 6 years though.


The legislative Body may actually do something productive for just once if senate will do its part and end daylight savings time. Dont hold your breathe as its not across finish line yet. Wonder if they will stay on the fake time that we are currently on now. Or Fall back to normal time in the Fall and leave it at that.
It should be the later, if they go through with this, one would think.
Speaking of daylight, our 6-8 week window of minimal light when arriving at work is ending. 1st hint we get of the days shortening.
I know the people just west of me have it rough but I do not want the sunrise to be near 9am for the winter.Are you aware that the House passed a bill changing it to year-round DST, not ending it? If the Senate passes it, it would be 1974 all over again, which was a big failure and thus was quickly reversed back.
Are you aware that the House passed a bill changing it to year-round DST, not ending it? If the Senate passes it, it would be 1974 all over again, which was a big failure and thus was quickly reversed back.
For wx folks, this would also mean models never reverting back to being released at the previously one hour earlier times in late fall/winter since they are always released based on Z time.
If it was a big failure, then why would they do it again ?Are you aware that the House passed a bill changing it to year-round DST, not ending it? If the Senate passes it, it would be 1974 all over again, which was a big failure and thus was quickly reversed back.
For wx folks, this would also mean models never reverting back to being released at the previously one hour earlier times in late fall/winter since they are always released based on Z time.
people don't study historyIf it was a big failure, then why would they do it again ?