Webberweather53
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Snow for me. I'll allow it
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Pattern December to Remember
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Snow for me. I'll allow it
You know, this look is actually pretty interesting 
Webberweather53
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These patterns are always really tricky. Doesn't take much to switch between ice storm, cold rain cad, or even severe weather.
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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Man. Webber and anyone in Texas is going to cash in on this pattern 
Webberweather53
Meteorologist
If I see legit snow out here, I'll definitely make an effort to go chase it in the mountains and send some pics/vid.
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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Please do! That would be awesome
Feel like that trough and it’s associated low in Canada/NW of the GLs needs to get out of here and get replaced with higher heights, and that introduces chances of classical CAD/ strong banana high and not some weak in-situ CAD event, the look at H5 honestly isn’t far off from some solid ice event 
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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No such thing as a solid ice event man. Cold rain is better. No one wants ice
LukeBarrette
im north of 90% of people on here so yeah
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I disagree. The results of this site contradict that.
How much do you like Freezing Rain?
There's a lot of controversy over this, so I'm interested to find out the results.
I use to be in that I don’t want ZR camp, but I’ve switched. Seeing any type of winter precip is a rarity nowadays here, gotta cherish anything that’s frozen nowadaysI disagree. The results of this site contradict that.
How much do you like Freezing Rain?
There's a lot of controversy over this, so I'm interested to find out the results.southernwx.com
NoSnowATL
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Ice storms are fun.I disagree. The results of this site contradict that.
How much do you like Freezing Rain?
There's a lot of controversy over this, so I'm interested to find out the results.
So wait, discussion about weather in Texas is ok now?
When I discussed our hot temperatures this past Summer/Fall, I was lambasted by more than one member for posting because Texas isn't in the Southeast. ?
It's always been okay. As a site, we've never discriminated against people outside of the SE. Some people are just rude.
Honestly for our area, our ice storms over the last 15 years have turned into sleet storms anyway which I don’t mind one bit
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Logan Is An Idiot 02
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IMO if there’s people in here from other states outside of the southeast it’s okay to talk about them
Indeed, when I look at very heavy RDU winter storms (I chose the 22 6”+ for minimum needed, which means mainly or all snow in just about all cases) since 1950, a +PNA was favored a pretty decent amount:
+PNA (+0.25+): 11 storms (50%)
Neutral PNA (-0.25 to +0.25): 7 storms (32%)
-PNA (-0.25-): 4 storms (18%)
I did this research a few years ago. So, for RDU for heavy snowstorms, there’s a partial correlation with a +PNA. I think ATL major snows (I use 3.5”+ for there) is similar but I don’t have the exact numbers readily available.
Note that this isn’t for mainly ZR/IP, which keep the total under 6”, These probably prefer a -PNA to neutral PNA for the reason you stated. I don’t know for sure though.
I think what it boils down to is that classic major SE Miller A snowstorms prefer neutral to +PNA as opposed to CAD based Miller B icestorms, which probably prefer neutral to -PNA. For the +PNA big snows, the mean trough normally needs to be fairly close to the Mississippi River so that it doesn’t suppress the storm track too far south.
What Ollie said. I've personally found having folks from outside of the region posting nice and if we grow more within the region or outside it'll be even more fun.