Cary_Snow95
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With this type of evolution you’re gonna see a short lived cold shot followed by a ser before we get into a settled cold patternMeh. Short lived
With this type of evolution you’re gonna see a short lived cold shot followed by a ser before we get into a settled cold patternMeh. Short lived
GFS finally showing this bad boy again .. only a matter of time before it takes over our pattern.. is it before Christmas? The day of? January 1-10? All would be fine with me!View attachment 97233
This is December 22 and you can see the pieces trying to come together overtop … I would say December 27-January 3rd is our flip periodView attachment 97235
It’ll be early to mid January imo
If you go verbatim off of modeling. In the past modeling almost always rushes pattern changes, I don’t see this being any different. We will have multiple ser flare ups late month as the western trough keeps getting dumped. Honestly though if this sets up by mid to late January I’m more than giddy. Basically prime climoThis is December 22 and you can see the pieces trying to come together overtop … I would say December 27-January 3rd is our flip period
Are you talking about the Greenland block, the mega -NAO? Greenland block won't necessarily mess up the pattern across the Eastern US. A -NAO is typically a good thing for production of cold/winter storms. I know it's the long range GFS, but I can actually agree with that - because I mentioned that blocking can go towards Greenland and poleward as troughs forces the blocking from the upcoming cutting storms. The colder pattern between the 17th - 22nd is still a go!GFS finally showing this bad boy again .. only a matter of time before it takes over our pattern.. is it before Christmas? The day of? January 1-10? All would be fine with me!View attachment 97233
I see nothing to lead me to believe there will be any pattern change between the 17th and 22nd. Doesn't matter how hard you look it's not there. If the MJO progression is actually correct then maybe by the 1st week in January.Are you talking about the Greenland block, the mega -NAO? Greenland block won't necessarily mess up the pattern across the Eastern US. A -NAO is typically a good thing for production of cold/winter storms. I know it's the long range GFS, but I can actually agree with that - because I mentioned that blocking can go towards Greenland and poleward as troughs forces the blocking from the upcoming cutting storms. The colder pattern between the 17th - 22nd is still a go!
17-22th is way to earlyAre you talking about the Greenland block, the mega -NAO? Greenland block won't necessarily mess up the pattern across the Eastern US. A -NAO is typically a good thing for production of cold/winter storms. I know it's the long range GFS, but I can actually agree with that - because I mentioned that blocking can go towards Greenland and poleward as troughs forces the blocking from the upcoming cutting storms. The colder pattern between the 17th - 22nd is still a go!
He must’ve meant of January ?17-22th is way to early
Agreed. While I do think it’s important that models are starting to pick up on changes, I don’t think we’ll see cold pattern dominate in the east until sometime in the first week of January. That’s not to so that we won’t see some quick hitting cool shots between now and then, but we should definitely see some warm days too the last week of the monthI see nothing to lead me to believe there will be any pattern change between the 17th and 22nd. Doesn't matter how hard you look it's not there. If the MJO progression is actually correct then maybe by the 1st week in January.
By "colder" you mean from mega torch to just kinda torchy.Are you talking about the Greenland block, the mega -NAO? Greenland block won't necessarily mess up the pattern across the Eastern US. A -NAO is typically a good thing for production of cold/winter storms. I know it's the long range GFS, but I can actually agree with that - because I mentioned that blocking can go towards Greenland and poleward as troughs forces the blocking from the upcoming cutting storms. The colder pattern between the 17th - 22nd is still a go!
18z GEFS favors a western dump that fires up the ser around Christmas