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Misc 2020/21 Fall and Winter Whamby Thread

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Jimmy Hypocracy said:
That seems like an easy cop out. We’re just in a ------ winter cycle right now. I mean look at the latitudes with much worse climo than us getting snow in the single digits right now. Wind chills below zero. Lol. It can and will happen again and again.
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Idk , Dallas apparently has had more extreme cold than us in Raleigh overall . They are further south too! Nearly 300 hours below freezing once. Nuts , anywhere west of the mountains will always be better in winter for cold . Nashville is 500 feet lower than the triad but still colder in winter with far colder records . Heck Nashville is as warm as Asheville in the winter and Asheville is 2k feet up in the mountains . I like Nashville’s climate .
 
Lickwx said:
Idk , Dallas apparently has had more extreme cold than us in Raleigh overall . They are further south too! Nearly 300 hours below freezing once. Nuts , anywhere west of the mountains will always be better in winter for cold . Nashville is 500 feet lower than the triad but still colder in winter with far colder records . Heck Nashville is as warm as Asheville in the winter and Asheville is 2k feet up in the mountains . I like Nashville’s climate .
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You and @Dewpoint Dan should do a collaboration
 
Lickwx said:
Idk , Dallas apparently has had more extreme cold than us in Raleigh overall . They are further south too! Nearly 300 hours below freezing once. Nuts , anywhere west of the mountains will always be better in winter for cold . Nashville is 500 feet lower than the triad but still colder in winter with far colder records . Heck Nashville is as warm as Asheville in the winter and Asheville is 2k feet up in the mountains . I like Nashville’s climate .
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We’re going to have a string of winters where troughs dig down through eastern Canada into the eastern US without having to first bleed into the plains and modify before getting here. It’s been a while since we’ve really seen this but it will happen again and we will be like “damn. That was easy.”
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
We’re going to have a string of winters where troughs dig down through eastern Canada into the eastern US without having to first bleed into the plains and modify before getting here. It’s been a while since we’ve really seen this but it will happen again and we will be like “damn. That was easy.”
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Yeah but troughs digging down eastern Canada don’t pack the same punch ones digging down west of the mountains do . I think it was 2017, or maybe 2019? Where one dug down , DC was nearly subzero but very tight gradient south of there with teens by the time you were in Raleigh. You need troughs to come down the GL for the deepest cold , similar to 1985 . 1936 another example if I got my year correct , all time record lows from dc north but single digits and teens in nc and sc versus -15 and colder in places like nyc.
 
Lickwx said:
Yeah but troughs digging down eastern Canada don’t pack the same punch ones digging down west of the mountains do . I think it was 2017, or maybe 2019? Where one dug down , DC was nearly subzero but very tight gradient south of there with teens by the time you were in Raleigh. You need troughs to come down the GL for the deepest cold , similar to 1985 . 1936 another example if I got my year correct , all time record lows from dc north but single digits and teens in nc and sc versus -15 and colder in places like nyc.
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Well, you see how big of a punch this one that entered the plains is packing for us..womp
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
We’re going to have a string of winters where troughs dig down through eastern Canada into the eastern US without having to first bleed into the plains and modify before getting here. It’s been a while since we’ve really seen this but it will happen again and we will be like “damn. That was easy.”
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Indeed we likely will. Regardless of whether or not you believe in GW favorable will still be favorable
 
Jimmy Hypocracy said:
Well, you see how big of a punch this one that entered the plains is packing for us..womp
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It dug too far west , remember the model runs that brought us cold had it digging down from Minnesota then southeast into the gl and Ohio valley. Ones that dig in eastern Canada leave us on the back side , eastern Canada is further east than us . It does well for eastern nc sometimes , and creates situations where Hatteras has colder days than us.
 
Lickwx said:
It dug too far west , remember the model runs that brought us cold had it digging down from Minnesota then southeast into the gl and Ohio valley. Ones that dig in eastern Canada leave us on the back side , eastern Canada is further east than us . It does well for eastern nc sometimes , and creates situations where Hatteras had colder days than us.
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Timing. Pacific has to cooperate to an extent but a 1090 HP would do us any good if it weren’t in the right spot. I want to see the Great Lakes frozen over with a trough diving in right over top.
 
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