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Snowfan said:
Wiles is out. Stephen Miler is in as chief of staff.
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I'm sure it has nothing to do with any of this but might as well burn it down and give the people the truth....He could have picked a slough of other people

White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller serves as a primary administration authority and lead official overseeing Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) disclosure and transparency efforts.

Role and Mandate: Secretary of State Marco Rubio and other officials have noted that Stephen Miller took charge of the UAP portfolio for the White House, driving an initiative focused on maximum transparency regarding unverified objects flying near military installations

Obstruction Claims: Miller has reportedly communicated with lawmakers—such as Representative Tim Burchett—stating that internal pushback or resistance from intelligence and government agencies ("deep state" elements) has made declassifying and retrieving full UFO/UAP records difficult.

Whistleblower & Policy Efforts: The administration has coordinated actions involving potential amnesty, whistleblower protections, and targeted legal waivers (such as through the Pentagon and the presidential reporting framework) to allow government workers and contractors to come forward regarding legacy UAP programs
 
Sandbar said:
I'm sure it has nothing to do with any of this but might as well burn it down and give the people the truth....He could have picked a slough of other people

White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller serves as a primary administration authority and lead official overseeing Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP) disclosure and transparency efforts.

Role and Mandate: Secretary of State Marco Rubio and other officials have noted that Stephen Miller took charge of the UAP portfolio for the White House, driving an initiative focused on maximum transparency regarding unverified objects flying near military installations

Obstruction Claims: Miller has reportedly communicated with lawmakers—such as Representative Tim Burchett—stating that internal pushback or resistance from intelligence and government agencies ("deep state" elements) has made declassifying and retrieving full UFO/UAP records difficult.

Whistleblower & Policy Efforts: The administration has coordinated actions involving potential amnesty, whistleblower protections, and targeted legal waivers (such as through the Pentagon and the presidential reporting framework) to allow government workers and contractors to come forward regarding legacy UAP programs
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I supported him as much as anyone else but he’s not came through on a single promise! Prices are up between fuel and groceries. Cost of living actually sucks! No new wars? Transparency? I’m as conservative as they come but he’s the blame!
 
jeremyt said:
I supported him as much as anyone else but he’s not came through on a single promise! Prices are up between fuel and groceries. Cost of living actually sucks! No new wars? Transparency? I’m as conservative as they come but he’s the blame!
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Understood but I put this post up because it has EVERYTHING to do with why I voted for him and that is disclosure. When that happens (and Miller has been leading that effort) it will upend governments across the planet. This IS a big deal whether people believe or accept it as such. People want the Epstein stuff to come out, the UAP topic has a lot to do with why it hasn't all been released. No reason not to expose the lies anymore if they are going to impeach him anyways
 
weatherfide said:
There is a concept of just war. You could argue that the Gaza conflict falls in that category. Hamas wasn't going to just surrender and leave Gaza. They view those "innocents" as fellow warriors for Islam. They hide behind the women and children and hostages. They do not fight symmetrically. They also view women and children as inferior. Could another method have been implemented? Maybe, but what? What would remove "Hamas" as a threat?
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Thanks for your reply.

Nothing can possibly justify to me that the killing of 70K Gazan women and children and massive destruction was warranted. Bibi needs to be defeated in favor of a more moderate coalition if there is any hope of starting to slowly repair Israel’s image.
 
Sandbar said:
I can't wait until he does...... Been waiting years
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What does that intel? More bending the knee to Netanyahu? More useless war in the Middle East? Social media rants every five minutes? I wish Trump would go completely off the rails and commit a seriously impeachable offense so we can all be done with him. The days of boomer conservatism are over and unfortunately what’s going to replace it is far right extremism to counter the left wing radicals.
 
GoDuke said:
What does that intel? More bending the knee to Netanyahu? More useless war in the Middle East? Social media rants every five minutes? I wish Trump would go completely off the rails and commit a seriously impeachable offense so we can all be done with him. The days of boomer conservatism are over and unfortunately what’s going to replace it is far right extremism to counter the left wing radicals.
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Awesome! We will both get what we want! You get an impeachment and the truth all in the same day......The truth of what has been hidden from humanity is more Important to me than politics
 
Downeastnc said:
Corporate greed is the problem, especially with the growing monopolies etc. Things are suppose to get better not worse, I have seen my buying power shrink a lot the last decade or so, and so have many others. My 23 yr old son lives at home and unless he is willing to live in a rundown trailer or apt he will for the foreseeable future as a decent one bedroom apt in this area is 800-1000 bucks....he is better off banking that right now cause he is gonna need it to try and get a house in a few years. I moved out when I was 18 and me and my roommate had a brand new 2 bedroom for 350 a month.
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Why doesn't your son buy a run down trailer and you know, do what I did and learn how to fix it up?

I swear our current generation are absolute patsies and I mean my own as well.

Things are hard, but they are not *that* hard.
 
Arcc said:
Why doesn't your son buy a run down trailer and you know, do what I did and learn how to fix it up?

I swear our current generation are absolute patsies and I mean my own as well.

Things are hard, but they are not *that* hard.
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Maybe people are just getting tired to being slaves to a system that only enriches the rich and leaves them nothing to show for their years of work
 
Shaggy said:
Maybe people are just getting tired to being slaves to a system that only enriches the rich and leaves them nothing to show for their years of work
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That is because we are materialistic and we continue to allow ourselves to be slaves because we want what they are selling. We Americans live better and have more gadgets and electronics by far than any other time in history which absolutely consume our time and money.

And to top it all off, we are the most unskilled and un-self reliant generation in America history. We blame the billionaires and the corporations, and hey they are somewhat to blame, but we buy their crap!

Everyone gripes because of housing costs, but very few want it enough to buy that acre of land and build a shack like your great grandfather did to have his own place because its not in a great neighborhood(which everyone wants), isn't modern enough(which everyone wants) and is not close enough to work(which everyone wants). We are spoiled plain and simple and honestly kind of get what we deserve.
 
How do pardons effect congressional testimony? Could blanket pardons actually back fire and cause subpoenaed cabinet members to no longer be allowed to plead the 5th?
 
Shaggy said:
Maybe people are just getting tired to being slaves to a system that only enriches the rich and leaves them nothing to show for their years of work
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Yes..... That didn't change Tuesday and I hope you realize this. It didn't change in 2020, it didn't change in 2024 and it isn't going to change in 2027 and beyond until people realize that the elites could care less how you vote. They don't care if you vote 3rd party either because the entire system is rigged
 
Shaggy said:
Maybe people are just getting tired to being slaves to a system that only enriches the rich and leaves them nothing to show for their years of work
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Aka not wanting to work and produce results! You only get what you produce and can’t rely on others or the government for your needs! Overall, no one owes any of us a dang thing!
 
Arcc said:
That is because we are materialistic and we continue to allow ourselves to be slaves because we want what they are selling. We Americans live better and have more gadgets and electronics by far than any other time in history which absolutely consume our time and money.

And to top it all off, we are the most unskilled and un-self reliant generation in America history. We blame the billionaires and the corporations, and hey they are somewhat to blame, but we buy their crap!

Everyone gripes because of housing costs, but very few want it enough to buy that acre of land and build a shack like your great grandfather did to have his own place because its not in a great neighborhood(which everyone wants), isn't modern enough(which everyone wants) and is not close enough to work(which everyone wants). We are spoiled plain and simple and honestly kind of get what we deserve.
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Love it when someone gets it......WE are our own problem and it takes courage to admit that
 
jeremyt said:
Aka not wanting to work and produce results! You only get what you produce and can’t rely on others or the government for your needs! Overall, no one owes any of us a dang thing!
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They owe us fair wages. Explain how the failed theory of trickle down economics is suppose to work when ceo pay has grown by 2000% while working wages and minimum haven't moved
 
Avalanche said:
Dude it’s just TDS, same as it ever was
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To be fair, what I call scorched earth and what shaggy calls it are most likely not in the same ballpark. Disclosure has been a slow drip on purpose. That purpose is no longer a part of the equation. I guess we will see but I feel energized
 
jeremyt said:
Aka not wanting to work and produce results! You only get what you produce and can’t rely on others or the government for your needs! Overall, no one owes any of us a dang thing!
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Also it's this attitude that drives people to lurch further towards the DS side of the party. There's a shift happening in the mindset of workers.

It use to be you worked hard for your bosses because they would reward your work and you could get somewhere with that. Now you work hard and they expect you to work harder without compensating you further. They want us to be robots. They want you shutting up and doing your work vecauae they need a other mansion in the Bahamas.
 
Shaggy said:
They owe us fair wages. Explain how the failed theory of trickle down economics is suppose to work when ceo pay has grown by 2000% while working wages and minimum haven't moved
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They don’t owe us crap! You sign for a job at a set wage, you agree to it. If not then you don’t have to work it. I’m sorry but that’s an bs excuse to me! Capitalism still makes the country revolve around, if you can’t accept that then I can’t discord!
 
Shaggy said:
They owe us fair wages. Explain how the failed theory of trickle down economics is suppose to work when ceo pay has grown by 2000% while working wages and minimum haven't moved
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What? I made $8-9.50 an hour in 2006-2010 and I know several guys just out of high-school getting jobs that pay $20 an hour plus.

Trickle down economics may be bullcrap, but it would be insane to to say wages have been static.
 
Far from it! The companies most of us work for can explain it! I think if you look at it holistically you are wrong and I’m sure whoever you work for would disagree!
 
Arcc said:
What? I made $8-9.50 an hour in 2006-2010 and I know several guys just out of high-school getting jobs that pay $20 an hour plus.

Trickle down economics may be bullcrap, but it would be insane to to say wages have been static.
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Have they outpaced inflation? Is affordability not an issue? Is that $20 going as far as $9 back then
 
jeremyt said:
Far from it! The companies most of us work for can explain it! I think if you look at it holistically you are wrong and I’m sure whoever you work for would disagree!
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Capitalism is now just a big merger. Startups get bought up by the larger corporations. All the streaming services buying each other up. Cell companies merging together. Meat packing companies. Healthcare companies, all consolidated down to a handful of options.

You quit who are you going to work for? They all know this and their employees know it too. Doesn't take much searching to see how one of the biggest companies in the US, wal-mart has tons of full time employees receiving benefits from the govt because walmart won't pay them a living wage. Meanwhile walmart made a PROFIT of 21B.
 
Shaggy said:
Capitalism is now just a big merger. Startups get bought up by the larger corporations. All the streaming services buying each other up. Cell companies merging together. Meat packing companies. Healthcare companies, all consolidated down to a handful of options.

You quit who are you going to work for? They all know this and their employees know it too. Doesn't take much searching to see how one of the biggest companies in the US, wal-mart has tons of full time employees receiving benefits from the govt because walmart won't pay them a living wage. Meanwhile walmart made a PROFIT of 21B.
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Why does profit for a company who took the risk make you “upset”. It was their money, not yours! Does it upset you that anyone can become wealthy or the fact that those who took the risk became wealthier!
 
Shaggy said:
Have they outpaced inflation? Is affordability not an issue? Is that $20 going as far as $9 back then
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Pretty close, I would say unless you flock to the places where the undefeated laws of supply and demand dominate.
 
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Shaggy said:
Capitalism is dead
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It's not dead it's unaffordable. So is socialism and communism. Elon has it right when he says we will eventually go to a universal income and monetary system. AI , new technology and new ways of thinking are coming and it will be painful for some, not so much for others.
 
Arcc said:
Why doesn't your son buy a run down trailer and you know, do what I did and learn how to fix it up?

I swear our current generation are absolute patsies and I mean my own as well.

Things are hard, but they are not *that* hard.
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I grew up in a single wide it was a big deal getting AC back then
 
Shaggy said:
Boeing is a great example where the ceo received a 45% pay raise year to year while their machinist received 1% over 8 years.
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Yet taking everything from CEO to give the workers a few more dollars an hour does nothing to fix the underlying issue. Does it suck he gets that much? Yep. Is it probably wrong? Absolutely. Will thrashing him do a blessed thing? Nope.
 
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