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Mahomeless said:
I am absolutely fine with us controlling what comes in and out of Iran. I am absolutely fine with no boots on the ground and no more destruction than was necessary to cripple Iran. I am absolutely fine with us not making a deal with Iran that is not 100% on our terms. I am absolutely fine with no nuclear Iran. And lastly, I am absolutely fine with sitting back and watching how this plays out before I start crying that it was all for nothing and that Iran has won….yall sound like a bunch of ass hats.
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The thing is, we do NOT control everything. Sure, we are blocking Iranian shipping, but they are blocking oil and many other very important things from crossing the strait. It has not hit us just yet, but it will. Just wait until gas is $10+ a gallon IF you can find it. Something else I have not seen mentioned here is that in a few months food will become much harder to find because of this. It's not only oil, but fertilizer too that is not coming out. That will cut crop yields bigtime.

You are wrong about Iran not winning this. That regime is still in place, and they'll most likely ignore most points of any deal too.
 
JHS said:
The thing is, we do NOT control everything. Sure, we are blocking Iranian shipping, but they are blocking oil and many other very important things from crossing the strait. It has not hit us just yet, but it will. Just wait until gas is $10+ a gallon IF you can find it. Something else I have not seen mentioned here is that in a few months food will become much harder to find because of this. It's not only oil, but fertilizer too that is not coming out. That will cut crop yields bigtime.

You are wrong about Iran not winning this. That regime is still in place, and they'll most likely ignore most points of any deal too.
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They will ignore all of it
 
JHS said:
The thing is, we do NOT control everything. Sure, we are blocking Iranian shipping, but they are blocking oil and many other very important things from crossing the strait. It has not hit us just yet, but it will. Just wait until gas is $10+ a gallon IF you can find it. Something else I have not seen mentioned here is that in a few months food will become much harder to find because of this. It's not only oil, but fertilizer too that is not coming out. That will cut crop yields bigtime.

You are wrong about Iran not winning this. That regime is still in place, and they'll most likely ignore most points of any deal too.
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In the words of an old, wise US President, "Come on man."
 
jeremyt said:
Iran has won, the hearts and minds of every liberal in the U.S.! This has become a political thread to bash the right on perceived failures when it hasn’t even ended!
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1. I’d say the US/Israel have won from a tactical point of view. I think that’s pretty clear. Iran’s military has been decimated and many leaders (military and political including the Ayatollah) have been killed. Does anyone disagree? If so, why?

2. However, to me it’s more like a stalemate from a strategic point of view as of now. Why? The evil Iranian regime unfortunately remains in control, Iran still has control of the Strait, their nuclear program still hasn’t been destroyed, and their proxy networks are still pretty much intact. Does anyone disagree? If so, why?
 
GaWx said:
1. I’d say the US/Israel have won from a tactical point of view. I think that’s pretty clear. Iran’s military has been decimated and many leaders (military and political including the Ayatollah) have been killed. Does anyone disagree? If so, why?

2. However, to me it’s more like a stalemate from a strategic point of view as of now. Why? The evil Iranian regime unfortunately remains in control, Iran still has control of the Strait, their nuclear program still hasn’t been destroyed, and their proxy networks are still pretty much intact. Does anyone disagree? If so, why?
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Well I can disagree easily. Iran has "control" of the strait because the US hasn't really tried to take it from them. I mean they are attacking vessels with small boats smaller than what the drug boats the US was smacking.

But, their control of the Strait does not equal with the fact that we have snuffed out their exports. A city under siege by a vastly superior force with absolutely no way to break it, is not a stalemate.
 
If this is even close to being true just screw down harder till they give up and surrender. We have every card



MOSSADIL COMMENTARY: IRAN’S ECONOMY IS COLLAPSING — AND THE SIGNS ARE HEREFood prices are surging. Basic goods are slipping out of reach. Citizens inside Iran are reporting shortages and daily price spikes — even after the ceasefire.This isn’t a temporary shock. It’s a system under pressure.Sanctions, war, and supply disruptions are choking the economy. Food inflation has already skyrocketed, with staple prices rising dramatically and millions pushed closer to poverty.And when money runs short, the regime makes one thing clear: the IRGC gets paid first — the people last.That’s how regimes survive longer than expected.But there’s a breaking point.When supermarkets empty, they turn into bread lines. And when the bread runs out, history shows what comes next: unrest.
 
lexxnchloe said:
There is no need to agree to a deal. Just force Iran to surrender.

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I'm not gonna give or take credit from Trump, but this being the goal all along wouldn't surprise me. The US plays games with the world just like every other country does and is probably more successful than we are led or want to believe.

Whack Iran --> know they will close the straight --> endure the spike and make the world hate Iran more --> take Iran's market share of oil when you blockade their exports.
 
Arcc said:
I'm not gonna give or take credit from Trump, but this being the goal all along wouldn't surprise me. The US plays games with the world just like every other country does and is probably more successful than we are led or want to believe.

Whack Iran --> know they will close the straight --> endure the spike and make the world hate Iran more --> take Iran's market share of oil when you blockade their exports.
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It's like I said yesterday...we are playing chess while Iran is playing checkers. The US continues to win on every move we make....its a great feeling to know the safety and security of OUR country is at the forefront of everything we have done for the past 16 months!
 
Gas prices will probably continue to rise as long as there is a clear difference in pricing between Brent Crude and Dated Brent. Don't think for a second that the US Government (or its entities) hasn't been shorting the oil markets to keep the price on paper down. This calms the market and is a decent strategy as long as they can exit their position before the contracts come due. I honestly feel like that was one of the reasons for the latest ceasefire extension. I've seen the price difference be as much as $38 a barrel over the past month. As of yesterday, the difference was around $12, so another spike in prices should be expected by the beginning of next week unless Iran meets all of our demands and things begin to open up.
 
Mahomeless said:
Gas prices will probably continue to rise as long as there is a clear difference in pricing between Brent Crude and Dated Brent. Don't think for a second that the US Government (or its entities) hasn't been shorting the oil markets to keep the price on paper down. This calms the market and is a decent strategy as long as they can exit their position before the contracts come due. I honestly feel like that was one of the reasons for the latest ceasefire extension. I've seen the price difference be as much as $38 a barrel over the past month. As of yesterday, the difference was around $12, so another spike in prices should be expected by the beginning of next week unless Iran meets all of our demands and things begin to open up.
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Let’s hope. We are all paying the price for this war. However, not as much as we would be with Iran using ballistic missles.
 
Bham 99 said:
Iran has had sanctions on them probably my whole life. Sanctions are nothing but a deep State ploy to make us think they're doing something.
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You got it! Now that people are actually becoming AWARE of things going on around them perhaps the next step of new discovery is becoming AWARE of who or what the "deep state" really is.
 
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