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We have dictated every step of this operation.....the fact that you can't see, or refuse to admit, that, tells us everything we need to know....you simply do not understand what is going on...simple minds see simple things.
And thats the problem. We do indeed have all the cards and yet WE are the ones desperate for a deal.
 
And thats the problem. We do indeed have all the cards and yet WE are the ones desperate for a deal.
No....we are the ones holding out, keeping the blockade, and squeezing Iranian leadership tighter and tighter WITHOUT inflicting more damage which would be inconsequential. The military damage that needed to be done has been done. Multiple tiers of their leadership is wiped out. A nuclear Iran had been removed from the equation for decades. The beginning of an internal collapse is becoming more evident by Iranian military sidelining their own President. We are desperate for nothing. You are desperate for something to whine about.....big difference.
 
This guy is stealing my thunder. I also have some really bad news for everyone. When a deal is signed the Iranians are going to sign in the blood of murdered Jews and 45,000 dead protestors and promptly go ahead and enrich uranium and get a nuke. Trump is begging even harder for Iran to pretty please with a sugar on top to make a deal with him.



Exactly, if we won like Trump lies about why are we being "fair"? We need to be very very unfair.



We are the losers and we are acting like it by begging Pakistan to talk Iran into being nice to us



This is the stance of a cowering loser, chasing a deal, begging for a deal. Iran now knows everyday they drag this out is going to force Trump to concede even more

 
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No....we are the ones holding out, keeping the blockade, and squeezing Iranian leadership tighter and tighter WITHOUT inflicting more damage which would be inconsequential. The military damage that needed to be done has been done. Multiple tiers of their leadership is wiped out. A nuclear Iran had been removed from the equation for decades. The beginning of an internal collapse is becoming more evident by Iranian military sidelining their own President. We are desperate for nothing. You are desperate for something to whine about.....big difference.
HAHAHA. trump said after the June war it would take decades for them to get a nuke

 
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No....we are the ones holding out, keeping the blockade, and squeezing Iranian leadership tighter and tighter WITHOUT inflicting more damage which would be inconsequential. The military damage that needed to be done has been done. Multiple tiers of their leadership is wiped out. A nuclear Iran had been removed from the equation for decades. The beginning of an internal collapse is becoming more evident by Iranian military sidelining their own President. We are desperate for nothing. You are desperate for something to whine about.....big difference.
Wrong. Holding out would mean we walk from the talks, screw down sanctions and the blockade harder, and dont evn mention a "deal" until Iran has agreed to OUR terms. And even then, the sanctions and blockade remain in place until every term of the deal is implemented.
 
Wrong. Holding out would mean we walk from the talks, screw down sanctions and the blockade harder, and dont evn mention a "deal" until Iran has agreed to OUR terms. And even then, the sanctions and blockade remain in place until every term of the deal is implemented.
We aren't talking ✅
Sanctions and blockades remain locked down✅
Reject multiple deals until our terms are met✅

So essentially we have done, and are doing, everything you want.....you just want to b*tch and moan......got it.
 
This guy is stealing my thunder. I also have some really bad news for everyone. When a deal is signed the Iranians are going to sign in the blood of murdered Jews and 45,000 dead protestors and promptly go ahead and enrich uranium and get a nuke. Trump is begging even harder for Iran to pretty please with a sugar on top to make a deal with him.



Exactly, if we won like Trump lies about why are we being "fair"? We need to be very very unfair.



We are the losers and we are acting like it by begging Pakistan to talk Iran into being nice to us



This is the stance of a cowering loser, chasing a deal, begging for a deal. Iran now knows everyday they drag this out is going to force Trump to concede even more


Actually we met with Japan to discuss the terms of surrender before they met to sign the surrender papers.They met on a ship. My mom worked in the Pentagon during WWII and made photocopies of all the war plans going through the pentagon.She kept a copy of the terms I have copies of the unsigned surrender papers in Japanese and English as well as a copy of the field book with signatures of those who were present. surrender
 
Actually we met with Japan to discuss the terms of surrender before they met to sign the surrender papers.They met on a ship. My mom worked in the Pentagon during WWII and made photocopies of all the war plans going through the pentagon.She kept a copy of the terms I have copies of the unsigned surrender papers in Japanese and English as well as a copy of the field book with signatures of those who were present. surrender
They met to discuss the formalities on the Missouri, not to discuss terms
 
There is no split in Iranian leadership. If there were they would be killing each other

@mdubowitz


Be careful with the Araghchi/Qalibaf–Vahidi “split.” Classic Iran negotiating tactic: if real, they use it to win concessions; if fake, they use it to buy time. Hold redlines: no enrichment, no missile rebuild, blockade stays, force stays credible. Ignore who is zooming whom.
 
They met to discuss the formalities on the Missouri, not to discuss terms
My bad, they met in Manila in August to discuss the terms. They signed on the ship Sept.2.Negotiation always go better one party does not refuses to negotiate. If we had not stopped the nuclear bomb production, would we be Japan.
 
This guy is stealing my thunder. I also have some really bad news for everyone. When a deal is signed the Iranians are going to sign in the blood of murdered Jews and 45,000 dead protestors and promptly go ahead and enrich uranium and get a nuke. Trump is begging even harder for Iran to pretty please with a sugar on top to make a deal with him.



Exactly, if we won like Trump lies about why are we being "fair"? We need to be very very unfair.



We are the losers and we are acting like it by begging Pakistan to talk Iran into being nice to us



This is the stance of a cowering loser, chasing a deal, begging for a deal. Iran now knows everyday they drag this out is going to force Trump to concede even more



Please tell me you aren't equating Japan in the 1940s to Iran and surely you arent advocating for the solution that brought that surrender.
 
My bad, they met in Manila in August to discuss the terms. They signed on the ship Sept.2.Negotiation always go better one party does not refuses to negotiate. If we had not stopped the nuclear bomb production, would we be Japan.
It was unconditional surrender. We didnt leave the militants in power. In fact we hung many of them. Thats winning
 
Please tell me you aren't equating Japan in the 1940s to Iran and surely you arent advocating for the solution that brought that surrender.
Victory doesnt need a nuke this time. Occupy Kharg, seize Iranian assets not freeze them, and recognize a provisional govt. They will collapse
 
Yes, he is......delusional people use delusional analogies to justify delusional outcomes.
Delusional people go from Iran must surrender unconditionally, to Please be nice to us and talk. Delusional people think leaving the same regime in place that butchered Jews and protestors is a wise idea.
 
When you have a congressman say stupid things like cheering awesome when he thought the Iranians got ship through, it doesn't help negotiations. The Iranians think every time a politician who in the past said they shouldn't have nuclear weapons now are saying things that are anti US(cheering for a win for Iran is supporting Iran not US) It is a signal in their mind that they have support within the democratic party who want to help them, therefore they should not negotiate, just wait for the other party to comeback in power.They are sabotaging the talks.At the very least they could stop spreading propaganda put out by Iran the way Chris Murphy has.He is beginning to be Irian's best PR man. Kind of like a Tech student cheering when UGA gets a touchdown.
Like I said before, the only supporters a terrorist regime has is the American socialists. They are a defense firm constantly making an argument on their behalf.
 
Delusional people go from Iran must surrender unconditionally, to Please be nice to us and talk. Delusional people think leaving the same regime in place that butchered Jews and protestors is a wise idea.

Trump is painted himself into a corner...his options are fairly limited but the waiting game is one Iran is apparently willing to play at least short term. There is no real ceasefire and the strait is not opened. There does not seem to be any real deal in the making....there is a lot of contradicting information coming from the US government on what exactly is occurring negotiations wise. All of that foreign policy is one Trump tweet away from being useless.

The US would be much better off if Trump just took a week long break from social media and let diplomatic channels work the issue.
 
Trump is painted himself into a corner...his options are fairly limited but the waiting game is one Iran is apparently willing to play at least short term. There is no real ceasefire and the strait is not opened. There does not seem to be any real deal in the making....there is a lot of contradicting information coming from the US government on what exactly is occurring negotiations wise. All of that foreign policy is one Trump tweet away from being useless.

The US would be much better off if Trump just took a week long break from social media and let diplomatic channels work the issue.
Now we have a new, deadline, replacing the deadline before and the deadline before that. Well played, Iran. Its like i double dare you cross that line!!! You cross the line and the coward just draws another line

 
Delusional people go from Iran must surrender unconditionally, to Please be nice to us and talk. Delusional people think leaving the same regime in place that butchered Jews and protestors is a wise idea.
Im sorry.....who said "be nice and talk to us"?....or is that just your spin on what was actually said (to which you have no idea what was said....nor do any of us). In case you missed it, the top 3 tiers of the regime that was in power are literally scattered in pieces....not figuratively, but literally bodies into pieces. Have you ever stopped to think that SOMEONE has to run Iran and that part of our non-negotiables are US choosing, or at a minimum, accepting who that person is. You continue to spew insane rhetoric and further prove your lack of knowledge about foreign affairs....it's comical.
 
Sure, but that will be lifted the second Iran agrees to anything, not until the terms are fully implemented and Iran will ignore it anyway
Just a page or two ago you were saying that we were the ones that were going to agree to Iran's terms.....so which is it.....when we agree to terms or when Iran agrees to terms?....you can't even keep your own rhetoric straight.... 😆
 
Im sorry.....who said "be nice and talk to us"?....or is that just your spin on what was actually said (to which you have no idea what was said....nor do any of us). In case you missed it, the top 3 tiers of the regime that was in power are literally scattered in pieces....not figuratively, but literally bodies into pieces. Have you ever stopped to think that SOMEONE has to run Iran and that part of our non-negotiables are US choosing, or at a minimum, accepting who that person is. You continue to spew insane rhetoric and further prove your lack of knowledge about foreign affairs....it's comical.
Your idea of diplomacy is leaving the same regime in place that murdered Jews and protestors. Its not mine
 
Trump is painted himself into a corner...his options are fairly limited but the waiting game is one Iran is apparently willing to play at least short term. There is no real ceasefire and the strait is not opened. There does not seem to be any real deal in the making....there is a lot of contradicting information coming from the US government on what exactly is occurring negotiations wise. All of that foreign policy is one Trump tweet away from being useless.

The US would be much better off if Trump just took a week long break from social media and let diplomatic channels work the issue.
That is something I can agree with. No President should conduct himself in the manner that Trump does on social media....that part of him is embarrassing. I can also agree with the previous statement about having limited options. I don't think the administration fully anticipated Iran being willing to let their country slowly collapse when we cut them off from the world. The amount of evil within that country is uncanny....but the good book tells us all about it.
 
Yes we must force consequences for non compliance
Like the consequence of killing off their whole government in 1 bombing, destroying their ballistic missile capabilities, and ensuring they can't produce a nuclear weapon for decades? What are you warmongers looking for? Boots on the ground? Killing anyone and everyone in Iran? a Nuke? What is your end game and how do you think we get there?
 
Your idea of diplomacy is leaving the same regime in place that murdered Jews and protestors. Its not mine
So that we are all clear.....Please explain exactly what you think this administration should do now, in the short term, in the long term, and what the exit strategy should be. Since you have all that answers, this should be easy and impossible for me to argue against.....ready.....go!
 
Well, how about these two articles, which came from Fox News? This first one was released way back on March 1st:

Sustained war with Iran could drain US missile stockpiles, test escalation control
Some defense insiders warn interceptor inventories severely depleted by recent operations


Officials and analysts warn that certain U.S. missile and air-defense interceptor inventories have been severely drawn down by the relentless pace of recent operations.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/su...issile-stockpiles-test-escalation-control.amp


This is the 2nd one, released 12/9/25:

US could burn through key missiles in 'a week' if war with China erupts, top security expert warns
Defense expert says China's military buildup exposes how far behind America's industrial base remains


Don't trust those either, citing "security experts". Sorry I trust our military leaders to know if we have enough ammo or not. Come on Larry, you really believe Iran and these other countries have more fire power, more munitions, more missiles, then the greatest most powerful nation in the world?
 
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