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DT is largely motivated by the movement in the stock and crude oil markets. But he’s also often motivated by the opportunity to make deals and possibly win a peace prize. So, these supposed talks would be consistent in those ways.

I do feel this is also setting up the possibility for a disagreement between DT and Bibi but we’ll see.
 
GaWx said:
DT is largely motivated by the movement in the stock and crude oil markets. But he’s also often motivated by the opportunity to make deals and possibly win a peace prize. So, these supposed talks would be consistent in those ways.

I do feel this is also setting up the possibility for a disagreement between DT and Bibi but we’ll see.
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Well, now an Israeli official says that Trump wants to wrap this up in a little over two weeks (April 9).

I do think they'll probably listen presuming this is all true, I mean, Trump was able to order Bibi to turn around aircraft headed for Iran last year.
 
You know, far beit for me to advise the death cult that runs Iran. But if their goal was to incite all the gulf states and islamist world to take their side, help swing the bat. Instead of launching missles at their neighbors, all they have to do is hit that ridiculous dome sitting on the rock of the temple mount. That would probably adout do it for them.
 
It's not capitulation it's good to have talks. we don't need another Iraq on our hands. Talk with whoever will talk as long as we're not there long term. And we don't need to make Iran the next Afghanistan with no infrastructure that just creates terrorists.
 
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It's not capitulation it's good to have talks. we don't need another Iraq on our hands. Talk with whoever will talk as long as we're not there long term. And we don't need to make Iran the next Afghanistan with no infrastructure that just creates terrorists.
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May be a little too late for some of those. I imagine there are parents of a hundred school kids that hate the US right about now
 
Outside of Baytown and Beaumont refineries by Exon.
This is the 3rd largest refinery in Texas. I think. May be off by 1 possibly 2. Its a big un though

  • Port Arthur Refinery (Valero), Port Arthur, 435,000 bbl/d (69,200 m3/d)[288] Nelson Complexity Index 12.4[151][289]
 
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Shaggy said:
May be a little too late for some of those. I imagine there are parents of a hundred school kids that hate the US right about now
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DCK said:
And I would imagine there are just as many that hate the regime due to its violent crackdowns as well.
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I asked my good Iranian-American friend for an update on the Iranian citizens’ support for the US/Israel in the war. I was surprised/saddened by his answer. He had been telling me that 80%, the ones that hate the mullah leadership, initially wanted US/Israel to do something. I love getting these updates because I deem them to be the unbiased truth of what’s really going on. He just said this:

Killing of the school girls and bombing of the infrastructure had an effect on people's mood. I would say much less than 80% support US and Israel now, and this is not good.

Yes... still 80% hate Mullahs but bombing the infrastructure weren't good tactics.

We see that US wasn't prepared for this war and we don't see a good outcome from it.

It is not that more hate US/Israel but more being disappointed and wanting an end to this war even though it seems mullahs are going to stay in power.

CIA and even Mossad underestimated the mullahs.

We have no hope for anything good coming out of this. We think mullahs will become stronger after this.
 
GaWx said:
I asked my good Iranian-American friend for an update on the Iranian citizens’ support for the US/Israel in the war. I was surprised/saddened by his answer. He had been telling me that 80%, the ones that hate the mullah leadership, initially wanted US/Israel to do something. I love getting these updates because I deem them to be the unbiased truth of what’s really going on. He just said this:

Killing of the school girls and bombing of the infrastructure had an effect on people's mood. I would say much less than 80% support US and Israel now, and this is not good.

Yes... still 80% hate Mullahs but bombing the infrastructure weren't good tactics.

We see that US wasn't prepared for this war and we don't see a good outcome from it.

It is not that more hate US/Israel but more being disappointed and wanting an end to this war even though it seems mullahs are going to stay in power.

CIA and even Mossad underestimated the mullahs.

We have no hope for anything good coming out of this. We think mullahs will become stronger after this.
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That saddens me. I do agree that we have made some mistakes and miscalculations in waging this war. Maybe Trump is making some deal now to get rid of the Mullahs but it seems that regime change is unlikely at the moment which is what I feel the majority of people in Iran and in the region honestly wanted. I know that Iran is weaker now after our attacks but they are also probably emboldened, that while they were decimated, they stayed in power. I feel it is a huge blow to our country if the status quo remains.
 
Reminder. Regime Change was not the Goal. Would have been icing on cake. But was left solely up to Iranian citizens.
The Mullahs are warped in their 12th Iman cult ideology. Its what has motivated them 24/7/365 for decades on end.
They shocked all intelligence agencies showing they posses missles to reach 4000km, not just 2000km which was where everyone had their max capability at.
We have been kicking the can down the road with Iran since Reagan. Every administration has tried the pacifier solution and all thats done is embolding them and increased their opportunity to destroy Israel and destroy America.
They make zero bones about it. Take them at their word. " Death to America" isnt aa cliche. They mean it, sincerely. The 1st chance they get to wipe us, jews off face of earth. They will seize the opportunity and not hesitate one second.
So folks can use current circumstances to score political points, etc. But centcom, admin knew they werent gonna wipe the mullahs off the scene. Would have been nice, but without boots on ground and most importantly citizens of Iran willingness to do it. Would be impossible.
However knocking the IRG back 5 decades by absolutely wrecking ball all their AF,Navy,Missle launchers, Nuclear Sites etc was doable and the goal. Knowing fulll well the risk of Iran sabatoging energy globally. 20% of worlds oil supply flows through S.O.H. was highly likely gonna be the fallout.
Yes it will be costly energy,gas price wise. And that will be costly politically. Common sense the Legacy Media and Uniparty, who they are in lock step with. Will not let a crisis go to waste. But kudos for eradicating this threat for several more years. Only option. Cause flying pallets of cash in, trying the pacifier approach only funds the beast more and its proxies.
 
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Well stated and reminder. Admin did the right thing. Job well done. A job Reagan, Bush1,Bush 2, Clinton,Obama,Biden All blew off and didnt have the go-nads to do.

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