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Jan. 17-18, 2026 SE Winter Weather Threat

You can’t see a flip to snow as the surface low pulls away? I don’t think that’s out of the question. 1-2 hours of wet snow for central NC

I have a hard time seeing it in Raleigh with how this is setup

I’ve never had an event be all rain with literally every model, globals and NAMs, showing snow. Maybe it won’t accumulate but that would be a first for to be all rain.

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This is a ridiculous hard forecast for ga/sc/nc. That low level dry air punch is concerning for Georgia. No idea how realistic that is or what wins the battle between the low level dry air pushing in and the excellent forcing above it.

NC has boundary layer issues for the whole storm that models are all over the place with.

SC has a mix of both issues.
 
That's not what he's been saying. He's been talking about NC and sc having issues

Sounds good to me..has me between 0.30 to 0.40...lol. Interesting that both models have greatly increased totals over central ga and sc though.
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Southern GA has dry air aloft issues, but there is potential that it is overcome in about a 20 mile wide swath centered somewhere around Albany, GA.
 
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NAM seems to be trending less sharp with the trough, this could be an invalid point since we’re late in the game. Just noting an H5 trend.


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I have a hard time seeing it in Raleigh with how this is setup



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Jan 2017 the NAMs were showing sleet storm where globals were showing snow. We got a raging sleet storm. I remember that vividly.

This would be a first for nearly every model to be wrong within 24 hours and we see nothing but rain. But…if I had money I would bet on you being right. You’ve had some great calls over the years.
 
When looking at the NAM go with the higher resolution 3KM rather than the12KM as far as track is concerned. Don't think either one is correctly identifying where the frozen precip or the amount that will actually verify.
 
Jan 2017 the NAMs were showing sleet storm where globals were showing snow. We got a raging sleet storm. I remember that vividly.

This would be a first for nearly every model to be wrong within 24 hours and we see nothing but rain. But…if I had money I would bet on you being right. You’ve had some great calls over the years.

Well actually no, we got cold rain that occasionally mixed with sleet is what happened
 
I’ve never had an event be all rain with literally every model, globals and NAMs, showing snow. Maybe it won’t accumulate but that would be a first for to be all rain.
Yeah, I would think that if the moisture is there that around your area and west towards me there will be snow falling for a few hours that never really accumulates more than a dusting or so. Snow TV and White Rain. I’m here for it though.
 
When looking at the NAM go with the higher resolution 3KM rather than the12KM as far as track is concerned. Don't think either one is correctly identifying where the frozen precip or the amount that will actually verify.
Yes. I've been looking at the 12KM for days now and should have known to lean on the 3KM this close in.
 
Southern GA has dry air aloft issues, but there is potential that it is overcome in about a 20 mile wide swath centered somewhere around Albany, GA.
I legit have no clue what dry air you are speaking of over central and south ga. North ga, north of Atlanta to athens....sure but south of there its saturated
This is a ridiculous hard forecast for ga/sc/nc. That low level dry air punch is concerning for Georgia. No idea how realistic that is or what wins the battle between the low level dry air pushing in and the excellent forcing above it.

NC has boundary layer issues for the whole storm that models are all over the place with.

SC has a mix of both issues.
It is ridiculous. The back edge will be very sharp so there is going to be some heart break.
 
Ive been worried about that too but now im in the 0.25 range in general . Gfs even showing amounts above 0.30 just south of atlanta. The question is will this trend continue, stop, or back off. If we get another couple of ticks till showtime even areas up to 85 will be doing surprisingly well compared to where we looked a day ago thats for sure.

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Amazing how topography works. The green and gray precip line is riding perfectly where the change in elevation quickly increases. That lightest green shade is exactly where you typically see the transition line between frozen and liquid for snow along 85.
 
Jan 2017 the NAMs were showing sleet storm where globals were showing snow. We got a raging sleet storm. I remember that vividly.

This would be a first for nearly every model to be wrong within 24 hours and we see nothing but rain. But…if I had money I would bet on you being right. You’ve had some great calls over the years.

I can also tell you for a fact that the HRRR, RAP, RRFS, and NDFD grids aren’t showing anything in central Wake County, even the normally cold RGEM is very borderline at best.

In Dec 2017 btw, the snow got to about RDU airport and stopped
 
We saw a dusting of sleet with mostly cold rain at nc state. Stop
What are we arguing about? I said show me a time where the globals and NAMs were showing snow for central NC at 24 hours out and we got all rain. Jan 2017 isn’t it. Clearly central NC had accumulating snow, this is from your website. You are such a child sometimes. Let it go…you lost this discussion. It happens.

And I agreed with you…you will probably be right about tomorrow. I pay you a compliment and you act like this. 🤦‍♂️

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What are we arguing about? I said show me a time where the globals and NAMs were showing snow for central NC at 24 hours out and we got all rain. Jan 2017 isn’t it. Clearly central NC had accumulating snow, this is from your website. You are such a child sometimes. Let it go…you lost this discussion. It happens.

And I agreed with you…you will probably be right about tomorrow. I pay you a compliment and you act like this. 🤦‍♂️

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Can you two please take this elsewhere?
 
Looks like eastern SC near the coast may only get cold rain right now it seems. I hope I’m wrong though.


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Warm bubble. Charleston has warmed up from 33 to 47 from 8am to 9am. (Forecast to reach the low to even mid 60s today). Possible "mesolow" kink in the Midlands, doubling down on cold air delay and thermal cold crash. Moisture and cold will have to arrive quicker or pretty much won't have time to change over.
 
Warm bubble. Charleston has warmed up from 33 to 47 from 8am to 9am. (Forecast to reach the low to even mid 60s today). Possible "mesolow" kink in the Midlands, doubling down on cold air delay and thermal cold crash. Moisture and cold will have to arrive quicker or pretty much won't have time to change over.

Yeah unfortunately I agree with everything you said. We can hope for the best but it’s not likely we see much in the Lowcountry. Maybe we will get the next one. Thanks for your details about it.
 
What are we arguing about? I said show me a time where the globals and NAMs were showing snow for central NC at 24 hours out and we got all rain. Jan 2017 isn’t it. Clearly central NC had accumulating snow, this is from your website. You are such a child sometimes. Let it go…you lost this discussion. It happens.

And I agreed with you…you will probably be right about tomorrow. I pay you a compliment and you act like this. 🤦‍♂️

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Central Wake county got mostly rain out of that event, we had more than enough QPF to support a few inches of sleet but that didn’t obviously happen, all the snow/ip totals were below 1”. The airport was closer to the 💩 line but that’s almost always the case

Here’s the ZR map btw, proving my point: we spent a lot of QPF on rain and ZR, that mixed with sleet, The airport got a third of the freezing rain we had in downtown Raleigh.


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