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Can we have a “wen thread”?
Like, a quick glance (not 10 pages of “it’s hot on Oct 17th I freaking told you it would be” and “not uh, Oct 20th is cold on this happy hour….) just like a wen cold? wen rain? thread that is only updated 1x per week by Mod of Your Choice? I feel like a weekly realistic weather Cliff Notes/Summary going into the start of weather meltdown season could be nice?
 
Can we have a “wen thread”?
Like, a quick glance (not 10 pages of “it’s hot on Oct 17th I freaking told you it would be” and “not uh, Oct 20th is cold on this happy hour….) just like a wen cold? wen rain? thread that is only updated 1x per week by Mod of Your Choice? I feel like a weekly realistic weather Cliff Notes/Summary going into the start of weather meltdown season could be nice?
If you are looking for cold, snow, rain wen is day 10. Heat, drought, sun is verifying
 
Can we have a “wen thread”?
Like, a quick glance (not 10 pages of “it’s hot on Oct 17th I freaking told you it would be” and “not uh, Oct 20th is cold on this happy hour….) just like a wen cold? wen rain? thread that is only updated 1x per week by Mod of Your Choice? I feel like a weekly realistic weather Cliff Notes/Summary going into the start of weather meltdown season could be nice?
Me trying to figure out what this means...
 

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Lol 2012 must have been crazy here... It was 112/88 on July 31st which is still our hottest low temperature ever and hottest mean ever and then the earliest freeze happened on October 7th go figure
 
City sparks debate after passing new law requiring all homeowners to paint roofs same color

The Grist reports that Atlanta has recently passed legislation that requires all new roofs to be more reflective. The changes won't be immediate; existing roofs don't have to be painted white just yet, but new buildings and replacement roofs are subject to the new law. The new roofs could cool the entire city by an average of 2.4 degrees Fahrenheit and as much as 6.3 degrees in the hottest neighborhoods.

Another notable feature of the cool roof ordinance is the estimated $315 million in energy bill savings the city will realize over the next 35 years. The new roofs won't cost any more than traditional ones and may actually be cheaper, and they'll last longer because the roof won't suffer the same wear and tear under the heat.


White roofs would cool Atlanta by 2.4F? Really? That sounds bogusly high.
Opinions?

Also, how long would they stay white?

 
City sparks debate after passing new law requiring all homeowners to paint roofs same color

The Grist reports that Atlanta has recently passed legislation that requires all new roofs to be more reflective. The changes won't be immediate; existing roofs don't have to be painted white just yet, but new buildings and replacement roofs are subject to the new law. The new roofs could cool the entire city by an average of 2.4 degrees Fahrenheit and as much as 6.3 degrees in the hottest neighborhoods.

Another notable feature of the cool roof ordinance is the estimated $315 million in energy bill savings the city will realize over the next 35 years. The new roofs won't cost any more than traditional ones and may actually be cheaper, and they'll last longer because the roof won't suffer the same wear and tear under the heat.


White roofs would cool Atlanta by 2.4F? Really? That sounds bogusly high.
Opinions?

Also, how long would they stay white?


They'd stay white then dingy white forever pretty much. I see TPO roofing regularly 20+ years old going strong with patches like you'd expect.

This is actually something I wish southern states would all do collectively. It would make it a much easier argument economically for the big roofing manufacturers (Certainteed, GAF, etc) to run more light colored product whether it be synthetic or traditional for residential stuff. Doesn't even have to be plain white. That works best for commercial structures but residential stuff can go a long way by just being not black. The UHI in metro Atlanta is ridiculous and I'd wager over say a couple of decades it would make an appreciable difference.
 
They'd stay white then dingy white forever pretty much. I see TPO roofing regularly 20+ years old going strong with patches like you'd expect.

This is actually something I wish southern states would all do collectively. It would make it a much easier argument economically for the big roofing manufacturers (Certainteed, GAF, etc) to run more light colored product whether it be synthetic or traditional for residential stuff. Doesn't even have to be plain white. That works best for commercial structures but residential stuff can go a long way by just being not black. The UHI in metro Atlanta is ridiculous and I'd wager over say a couple of decades it would make an appreciable difference.

The last roof I got was medium gray. I didn’t want to get dark so as to keep my attic cooler in summer, but I didn’t want it too light so it wouldn’t become dingy looking.
 
City sparks debate after passing new law requiring all homeowners to paint roofs same color

The Grist reports that Atlanta has recently passed legislation that requires all new roofs to be more reflective. The changes won't be immediate; existing roofs don't have to be painted white just yet, but new buildings and replacement roofs are subject to the new law. The new roofs could cool the entire city by an average of 2.4 degrees Fahrenheit and as much as 6.3 degrees in the hottest neighborhoods.

Another notable feature of the cool roof ordinance is the estimated $315 million in energy bill savings the city will realize over the next 35 years. The new roofs won't cost any more than traditional ones and may actually be cheaper, and they'll last longer because the roof won't suffer the same wear and tear under the heat.


White roofs would cool Atlanta by 2.4F? Really? That sounds bogusly high.
Opinions?

Also, how long would they stay white?

Dumb
 
City sparks debate after passing new law requiring all homeowners to paint roofs same color

The Grist reports that Atlanta has recently passed legislation that requires all new roofs to be more reflective. The changes won't be immediate; existing roofs don't have to be painted white just yet, but new buildings and replacement roofs are subject to the new law. The new roofs could cool the entire city by an average of 2.4 degrees Fahrenheit and as much as 6.3 degrees in the hottest neighborhoods.

Another notable feature of the cool roof ordinance is the estimated $315 million in energy bill savings the city will realize over the next 35 years. The new roofs won't cost any more than traditional ones and may actually be cheaper, and they'll last longer because the roof won't suffer the same wear and tear under the heat.


White roofs would cool Atlanta by 2.4F? Really? That sounds bogusly high.
Opinions?

Also, how long would they stay white?

We all must do what it takes to make it snow again
 
City sparks debate after passing new law requiring all homeowners to paint roofs same color

The Grist reports that Atlanta has recently passed legislation that requires all new roofs to be more reflective. The changes won't be immediate; existing roofs don't have to be painted white just yet, but new buildings and replacement roofs are subject to the new law. The new roofs could cool the entire city by an average of 2.4 degrees Fahrenheit and as much as 6.3 degrees in the hottest neighborhoods.

Another notable feature of the cool roof ordinance is the estimated $315 million in energy bill savings the city will realize over the next 35 years. The new roofs won't cost any more than traditional ones and may actually be cheaper, and they'll last longer because the roof won't suffer the same wear and tear under the heat.


White roofs would cool Atlanta by 2.4F? Really? That sounds bogusly high.
Opinions?

Also, how long would they stay white?

I didn’t know that paint color even has an effect on temperature.
 
It definitely does. My red 1976 Cordoba with rich corinthian black leather seats gets much hotter than the 2020 white Rav-4.
 
I didn’t know that paint color even has an effect on temperature.

The temperature of the asphalt in shingles can vary quite a bit between dark and light, which then affects the attic temp. Regarding how much that then affects the lived in portion of the house, attic insulation is a big factor.

Up north, where heating is more expensive than cooling, darker is better for energy efficiency overall.
 
Yeah Gov't telling you how to paint your house seems like a great idea 🙄


I didn’t know that paint color even has an effect on temperature.

The KATL temp sensor putting in work to get roofs painted white.

I need to clarify something about the article. The headline was plain wrong:

It says, “City sparks debate after passing new law requiring all homeowners to paint roofs same color”

Then the first line in the article says this: “The Grist reports that Atlanta has recently passed legislation that requires all new roofs to be more reflective.”

So, the city is not requiring any painting but rather that new or replacement roofs be light colored. Existing dark roofs aren’t affected.

Sorry about the confusion.
 
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