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Political Thread Part 2
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I wonder why there can never be discussion about relaxing regs and increasing oil production for the now while simultaneously working towards fiscally sound, sustainable clean energy? It's always one way or the other. I mean, people are hurting right now, do what needs to be done to relieve that economic pressure, nobody is suggesting abandon clean energy altogether. As more effective methods or clean energy are developed slowly cut back on fossil fuels.
HSVweather
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The White House twitter account is on the defensive this morning on gas price increases, just FYI if anyone wants to read it. In the thread it shows US oil production approaching record high?
Is there an issue with refinery capacity and transportation or is it the record profit for oil companies? I don’t know, just asking for further discussion.
Is there an issue with refinery capacity and transportation or is it the record profit for oil companies? I don’t know, just asking for further discussion.
Here is what I think is a good suggestion:
Let's try to act like adults and have some civil conversations about political items. If you want to be a little sarcastic or jab at another poster a little bit, at least try to control your emotional state and not get too worked up. I understand that you might be angry at the political situation or even at your personal situation, but it's not right to take it out on other posters, even if they don't agree with you.
Everyone here has the ability to talk to each other, even argue with each other, in a civil and respectful manner. If you can't do it, you'll be locked out of the thread, which is probably better for you anyway.
Also, please don't take anything from here and translate it to other parts of the board, or we can't have the thread. Also, please don't talk about the death of politicians, or we can't have the thread. Let's just recognize the fact that other people don't always think like we do. I'm a conservative but I know some of you are liberal. That's fine. We're all different. At the end of the day, let's try and respect that. If we do, things will be just fine.
Thanks!
Let's try to act like adults and have some civil conversations about political items. If you want to be a little sarcastic or jab at another poster a little bit, at least try to control your emotional state and not get too worked up. I understand that you might be angry at the political situation or even at your personal situation, but it's not right to take it out on other posters, even if they don't agree with you.
Everyone here has the ability to talk to each other, even argue with each other, in a civil and respectful manner. If you can't do it, you'll be locked out of the thread, which is probably better for you anyway.
Also, please don't take anything from here and translate it to other parts of the board, or we can't have the thread. Also, please don't talk about the death of politicians, or we can't have the thread. Let's just recognize the fact that other people don't always think like we do. I'm a conservative but I know some of you are liberal. That's fine. We're all different. At the end of the day, let's try and respect that. If we do, things will be just fine.
Thanks!
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How much is being exported
I agree with you on principle. It sounds like a right and reasonable approach. But the reality is, just like with anything else that involves power and money, change doesn't take place if it requires planning and the buy-in of the citizenry. People at home don't care unless it affects them now. And politicians don't care unless it benefits them now.
Who put you in charge? Like that
We probably should change the name to a public policy thread instead of having a president's name in there bc that's just going to incite people That can't control themselves. I'm just trying to think of ways to keep this kind of thread open. I like the discussion.
I respect your opinion, my good man.Who put you in charge? Like that
WTI crude (benchmark for US crude oil) and Brent crude (benchmark for European, Middle Eastern, and African crude oil) are strongly correlated and have been for decades as the chart at this link clearly shows:
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www.thebalance.com
The point is that US crude oil prices (WTI) are not in a bubble vs the rest of the world. US crude oil prices move similarly to overseas crude oil prices as has been happening in recent months. Brent has been trading at a slight premium to WTI and that continues. But % movements from day to day are usually similar. They both have risen sharply in recent months.
WTI crude charts:
Brent crude charts:
The Pricing Differentials Between Brent Crude Oil and WTI
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The point is that US crude oil prices (WTI) are not in a bubble vs the rest of the world. US crude oil prices move similarly to overseas crude oil prices as has been happening in recent months. Brent has been trading at a slight premium to WTI and that continues. But % movements from day to day are usually similar. They both have risen sharply in recent months.
WTI crude charts:
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Brent crude charts:
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Right, I understand that and it's exactly why it is really never discussed or in reality an option. I mean another reality is clean energy isn't cheap, especially these EV they want everyone to own. I know you've seen the price of nickel, that's just one issue surrounding EVs, does anyone even know how much it cost to recharge an EV at one of those charging ports? What will we eventually do with all the expired batteries, there are so many components to it that never get discussed, anyway I think I'm rambling now. And what about China and all the other nations in the world that have done nothing to reduce emissions from fossil fuels, that we continue to buy from.
It is so much more complex then the talking points that get spewed about like last night's undercooked chicken
I wasn't directing that at you. Just saying visiting this board and even this specific thread is a choice we all make. We as staff have generally made every effort to clean up threads and address complaints from members as a whole. It's gotten so tiresome to hear "stayuff deleted muh post, grrrrr me angry, damn *name opposite political direction* here siluncing me", when I'm sure 80% of the other deleted posts they aren't seeing. Good grief.
HSVweather
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I did a little quick research earlier in the week on home chargers since we are considering buying a new car as one of our cars (not EV or hybrid) is at 125k and has some issues. It seems most good home chargers are 600 plus and then getting it hooked up and installed. Amps and volts and model of car all play into the charge time. Depending on where you live, chargers are not widely available for travel and longer trips, have to plan out stops. Larger cities obviously have more chargers. We also bought a new Toyota Camry hybrid in 2019 that gets 47-51 mpg and has been our most used vehicle.
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The battery question is a good one. I was a gullible believer in a company ABML and bought some stock and it tanked, lol. The ability to recycle the batteries will be important in my opinion as the raw material to make new will be harder to get and more expensive.
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I've got a Ford hybrid for my company car and it's my first hybrid I've ever had.. I just like the fact that I can go 500 miles on one tank.I did a little quick research earlier in the week on home chargers since we are considering buying a new car as one of our cars (not EV or hybrid) is at 125k and has some issues. It seems most good home chargers are 600 plus and then getting it hooked up and installed. Amps and bolts and model of car all play into the charge time. Depending on where you live, chargers are not widely available for travel and longer trips, have to plan out stops. Larger cities obviously have more chargers. We also bought a new Toyota Camry hybrid in 2019 that gets 47-51 mpg and has been our most used vehicle.
Power Up Your Ride at Home With These Editor-Approved Electric Vehicle Chargers
Plug in, power up, and hit the road.
NCSNOW
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A lot of sheets have charging pumps here in triad. I asked a guy and he said he was being charged 6 bucks roughly to charge his car. I asked him how long it took and he said about 50 minutes. I assume he got off of I 85, was on a out of area trip perhaps. I dont even like to stop for restroom breaks when I travel out of town lol. Id be stir crazy killing an hour to charge up.
I love the idea of electric cars but until I can go down to Florida without having to stop and charge twice it ain't going to happen. I'll be like Cuba fixing up 50 year old cars if I have to.I did a little quick research earlier in the week on home chargers since we are considering buying a new car as one of our cars (not EV or hybrid) is at 125k and has some issues. It seems most good home chargers are 600 plus and then getting it hooked up and installed. Amps and volts and model of car all play into the charge time. Depending on where you live, chargers are not widely available for travel and longer trips, have to plan out stops. Larger cities obviously have more chargers. We also bought a new Toyota Camry hybrid in 2019 that gets 47-51 mpg and has been our most used vehicle.
Power Up Your Ride at Home With These Editor-Approved Electric Vehicle Chargers
Plug in, power up, and hit the road.
The battery question is a good one. I was a gullible believer in a company ABML and bought some stock and it tanked, lol. The ability to recycle the batteries will be important in my opinion as the raw material to make new will be harder to get and more expensive.
I live in the country not near any big city but I am right off I-95, there is a charging location about 6 miles from my house (it's over by the Dunkin we frequent haha) and it has about 12 Tesla charging ports. On any given day we see about 5-8 vehicles over there, people sitting inside their cars on their phone or walking their dogs while charging, I've always wondered how long does it take and how much did it cost. Just curiousI did a little quick research earlier in the week on home chargers since we are considering buying a new car as one of our cars (not EV or hybrid) is at 125k and has some issues. It seems most good home chargers are 600 plus and then getting it hooked up and installed. Amps and volts and model of car all play into the charge time. Depending on where you live, chargers are not widely available for travel and longer trips, have to plan out stops. Larger cities obviously have more chargers. We also bought a new Toyota Camry hybrid in 2019 that gets 47-51 mpg and has been our most used vehicle.
Power Up Your Ride at Home With These Editor-Approved Electric Vehicle Chargers
Plug in, power up, and hit the road.
The battery question is a good one. I was a gullible believer in a company ABML and bought some stock and it tanked, lol. The ability to recycle the batteries will be important in my opinion as the raw material to make new will be harder to get and more expensive.
NCSNOW
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Lets not kid ourselves, there are folks in charge of making policy that love these higher prices. Main one is the current energy secretary.
Love the " use more public transportation aurgument." Non existent and impractical for 99% of the US geographical area.
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Love the " use more public transportation aurgument." Non existent and impractical for 99% of the US geographical area.
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HSVweather
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I think it varies by car but taking the 2022 Hyundai IONIQ 5 for example, listed below are the charging times based on the Volts.
AC Level II, Standard 240V (from 10% to 100% charge)
6 hours 43 minutes
Rapid Charging: 150kW (400V) (from 10% to 80% charge)
25 minutes (est.)
Rapid Charging: >250kW (800V) (from 10% to 80% charge)
18 minutes
Being realistic, a 44k starting price is still high for most people. Plus, I’m looking for the charging location link map but the rapid chargers are not common. There is a cost to charge. So, one method would be to use a 240V charger overnight at home and use the car for local commutes, as an example. That doesn’t fit everyone’s need.
VegasEagle
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I got an idea!!!!!!!!!!
Once a month, we do a three-day purge on politics and then shut it down.
Once a month, we do a three-day purge on politics and then shut it down.
NCSNOW
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Curious of thoughts about this article. Stuff is poision to small engines, lawnmowers,pressure washeres , weedeaters etc
Horowitz: With record food prices, time to repeal the ethanol mandate now
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Horowitz: With record food prices, time to repeal the ethanol mandate now
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One could not have thought of a more irrational idea than taking 40% of the corn grown in this country and shoving it into our engines, thereby raising the cost of both fuel production and food. Corn is the beginning of the food chain, and with the worst crisis of food and fuel pricing ever, why...
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NCSNOW
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Also if state and local poloticians feel our pain. Suspend the federal and state fuel tax. Georgia Govenor did just that I beleive.
Meanwhile, crude oil (WTI) and Brent crude have both dropped $21 from the highs of two days ago:
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Shaggy
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Now let's see how long it takes to drop at the pump. Oil goes up 21 a barrel it rises overnight. Oil drops 21 a barrel and it takes 3 months to co.e off at the pump.Meanwhile, crude oil (WTI) and Brent crude have both dropped $21 from the highs of two days ago:
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Beware of what that can do though. You often don’t get what you don’t pay for. SC has had one of the lowest fuel taxes for many years. But if you ever travel in SC, you’ll see the effect: terrible roads and very slow to improve them/widen them vs neighboring NC and GA. Being not far from the border of GA and SC, I know this from first hand experience, especially on my many trips to CHS. This is very well known. Widening US 17 took an eternity. Before then, it was a very dangerous road.
So, yes, I have often bought gasoline in SC when already going there to save vs buying it in GA. But the roads there OMG.
Another example is I-95: fewer lanes in SC vs both GA and NC.
Russia invaded Ukraine just 3 weeks ago yet it is the sole responsible factor in inflation according to the WH, incredible.
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US barreling toward recession, experts say, as inflation hits 40-year-high
Experts tell FOX Business the U.S. economy is barreling toward a recession, or may already be in one.
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Is the WH actually saying that? If so, we know that’s BS being that inflation has been increasing since demand recoveries from COVID started in the last half of 2020 after the prior demand drops caused prices to fall. Ukraine has merely worsened inflation as opposed to being the sole cause.
HSVweather
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This is part of a longer thread
Well, that’s not the same thing as metwannabe saying:
“ Russia invaded Ukraine just 3 weeks ago yet it is the sole responsible factor in inflation according to the WH, incredible.”
Am I correct? If not, what am I missing? Is he referring to something else?
severestorm
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Lockdowns ,quarantine laws, and vaccine mandates caused inflation and the supply chain collapse.
Sanctions caused oil to rise.
Amazing how politicians push the blame when it is their own policies that are causing the issues. Gaslighting at it's finest.
HSVweather
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The link from Twitter is what I’ve seen this morning. There may be something else I’m missing.
But did the WH actually say: “Russia invaded Ukraine just 3 weeks ago yet it is the sole responsible factor in inflation according to the WH, incredible.”?
If so, please provide the link.
Actually Jen Psaki just said during her presser that the Russian invasion was in fact the catalyst behind our current energy crisis and inflation, I listened, she was asked about prior to the invasion and she stated that was due to the pandemic.
But I also recall Biden stating prior to the invasion that our economy was strong and was not in the dire condition that was being reported, I'm paraphrasing, but now he has no problem blaming Putin at least he admits the economy is bad, just not his fault.
But I also recall Biden stating prior to the invasion that our economy was strong and was not in the dire condition that was being reported, I'm paraphrasing, but now he has no problem blaming Putin at least he admits the economy is bad, just not his fault.
Please provide a link to the exact comments since you brought it up so we know what words to debate.
severestorm
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Biden blames 'Putin's price hike' for inflation spike
President Biden on Thursday said that the inflation report shows Americans are feeling the impacts of the price hike brought on by Russian President Vladimir Putin’s invasion into Ukraine.
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