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Broken024 said:
2 pages in and not 1 specific policy called out
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Not entirely true, we've mentioned his regulations on the Oil industry... on January 28, 2021 he signed executive orders halting new leases for oil production for onshore and offshore locations, he killed the Keystone pipeline, has explored "royalties" for all coal, oil and gas productions basically to "compensate for environmental issues", he halted the lease program in ANWR and has directed his agencies to enact new rules and regs to reduce emissions from vehicles. That of course is trickling down to the auto/truck manufacturers and that cost will be passed on to us. So while he has said it's to detrimental to the environment for the US to produce more oil it perfectly fine to pay countries that treat their citizens like stray dogs to produce it for us.
 
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Beef Is Now A "Luxury Meat" And Goldman Sachs Says To Brace For "One Of The Largest Energy Supply Shocks Ever"

The new global economic crisis that we have entered into is starting to hit home with hard working American families in a major way. I have been hearing from so many people that are absolutely horrified by how rapidly the price of gasoline is rising. Especially for those that have to drive a...
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Actually Biden is creating policies to address that very problem by attempting to allow more meat packing facilities to keep the 4 main ones from monopolizing the flow of meat.

It also helps to live where i do cause sometimes I get those awesome meat deals. Not bidens fault if you don't live near a piggly wiggly.
 

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Shaggy said:
Actually Biden is creating policies to address that very problem by attempting to allow more meat packing facilities to keep the 4 main ones from monopolizing the flow of meat.

It also helps to live where i do cause sometimes I get those awesome meat deals. Not bidens fault if you don't live near a piggly wiggly.
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Well kinda because no one can afford to move to be close to one :cool:
 
metwannabe said:
Not entirely true, we've mentioned his regulations on the Oil industry... on January 28, 2021 he signed executive orders halting new leases for oil production for onshore and offshore locations, he killed the Keystone pipeline, has explored "royalties" for all coal, oil and gas productions basically to "compensate for environmental issues", he halted the lease program in ANWR and has directed his agencies to enact new rules and regs to reduce emissions from vehicles. That of course is trickling down to the auto/truck manufacturers and that cost will be passed on to us. So while he has said it's to detrimental to the environment for the US to produce more oil it perfectly fine to pay countries that treat their citizens like stray dogs to produce it for us.
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Bidens approved new lease requests at 98% compared to trumps 94%. There are currently 9200ish public leases that are NOT being pumped despite being awarded.
 
Also I'll add this, it's been talked about more in the stock market thread, but you can't just continue to have run away inflation while giving out free money and refusing to raise interest rates. Our economist in DC have no idea how an economy actually works.
 
metwannabe said:
Also I'll add this, it's been talked about more in the stock market thread, but you can't just continue to have run away inflation while giving out free money and refusing to raise interest rates. Our economist in DC have no idea how an economy actually works.
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Or they do and have ulterior motives... I think they know what they are doing personally.
 
Shaggy said:
Bidens approved new lease requests at 98% compared to trumps 94%. There are currently 9200ish public leases that are NOT being pumped despite being awarded.
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First nobody mentioned Trump, I don't care, he is not our POTUS currently, 2ndly I addressed the leases in a previous post. It's not as simple as hey we've approved these leases, go freely drill and find all the oil you want, far more complicated then that and you know it friend.
 
metwannabe said:
Not entirely true, we've mentioned his regulations on the Oil industry... on January 28, 2021 he signed executive orders halting new leases for oil production for onshore and offshore locations, he killed the Keystone pipeline, has explored "royalties" for all coal, oil and gas productions basically to "compensate for environmental issues", he halted the lease program in ANWR and has directed his agencies to enact new rules and regs to reduce emissions from vehicles. That of course is trickling down to the auto/truck manufacturers and that cost will be passed on to us. So while he has said it's to detrimental to the environment for the US to produce more oil it perfectly fine to pay countries that treat their citizens like stray dogs to produce it for us.
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The pipeline still wouldn't be finished so not much or a factor (even ignorong it was Canadian oil be exported).

Oil leases on public land were higher than most of the previous 5 years even with this ban (think it actually was over turned). Also, drilling on public land represents 7% of total drilling. Again, not much of a factor.

The real issue is international. This still hasn't increased to pre pandemic levels in most countries which has caused global increase in price. This should begin to come down as production continues to ramp up. 2023 is forecast to be close to record year for US (production has been steadily trending up since bottoming out mid 2020)
 
metwannabe said:
First nobody mentioned Trump, I don't care, he is not our POTUS currently, 2ndly I addressed the leases in a previous post. It's not as simple as hey we've approved these leases, go freely drill and find all the oil you want, far more complicated then that and you know it friend.
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Well another poster mentioned bidens "war on oil" so I found it relevant to compare Boden to another president and why would t we compare that to his predecessor since that's the latest comparison.

From my understanding these leases are "ready to drill" leases
 
Several very real things that people need to accept.....first and foremost fossil fuel is a finite commodity, there is only so much of it out there.....we use it a hell of a lot faster than its created. Add to that the fact that certain places pretty much control the flow of said commodity and well its only going to get worse. Going green is the only viable option going forward.....there is no future in oil because it will be gone in a 50-100 or so years.

US oil companies are deliberately NOT increasing production to bank more money to offset the crappy past few years due to Covid.....remember while you were happy to only be paying 1.80 a gallon back in 2020 over 200k US oil workers lost their jobs since there was no demand for oil. This caused big hits to the bottom line for shareholders of major US oil companies. Now with high oil prices most US oil companies are slow rolling new well development ( thus all these open leases ) so they can bank profit. They are choosing to turn a profit over increasing production to meet demand thus lowering the price and saving you money.

So what you are seeing with gas prices is pretty much how things are going to be, outside of things like pandemics crushing demand....$3-4 a gallon will be average and its only going to go up as supplies dwindle. It would be this price right now regardless who was president, the only thing to prevented it from happening 2-3 years ago was covid....
 
Broken024 said:
The pipeline still wouldn't be finished so not much or a factor (even ignorong it was Canadian oil be exported).

Oil leases on public land were higher than most of the previous 5 years even with this ban (think it actually was over turned). Also, drilling on public land represents 7% of total drilling. Again, not much of a factor.

The real issue is international. This still hasn't increased to pre pandemic levels in most countries which has caused global increase in price. This should begin to come down as production continues to ramp up. 2023 is forecast to be close to record year for US (production has been steadily trending up since bottoming out mid 2020)
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About 2.7 million b/d, or 25% of U.S. oil production, is tied to federal lands and waters, said Morgan Stanley Research analysts in a note to clients on Friday. About 40% of that amount comes from onshore unconventional plays, mainly in the Permian Basin and Bakken Shale, with the remainder from conventional production in the Gulf of Mexico and Alaska.

But I've got work to do so y'all have at it. Lol
 
Our debt has skyrocketed/ballooned to over 30 trillion dollars. If you had a 10% pay increase the past 12 months, your still pocketing less money than 12 months ago.
Most everyone is struggling right now. You cant slow down the economy by raising interest rates. You cant tighten the monetary policy or loosing it. Its a lose/lose either way.
The road to funnel everyone into the Digital currency has been paved with the Russia invasion crisis. They are gonna let the dollar collapse folks. Gonna cost us all. The Globalist are licking their chops. All I can do is say/ warn everyone to pay close attn to what's unfolding right before us. This is a pipe dream from the to control us all by making us hostage through financial handcuffs. These ESG laws are gonna be tied directly with this Digital currency. "The Great Reset"
I manage 40 hard working outstanding employees. Very blessed. They along with yours truly are being raped every trip to the pump, grocery store. Sucking every penny out of our pockets and leaving very little if any disposable income to spend on anything else. Which means we aren't buying other items. We are a consumer driving economy. Headed right into the jaws of a recession at a bare minimum. This whole crisis could have been avoided and happened as a result of dumfounding policies.
 
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I want a dollar 50 gas prices. Please.
NCSNOW said:
Our debt has skyrocketed/ballooned to over 30 trillion dollars. If you had a 10% pay increase the past 12 months, your still pocketing less money than 12 months ago.
Most everyone is struggling right now. You cant slow down the economy by raising interest rates. You cant tighten the monetary policy or loosing it. Its a loose/loose either way.
The road to funnel everyone into the Digital currency has been paved with the Russia invasion crisis. They are gonna let the dollar collapse folks. Gonna cost us all. The Globalist are licking their chops. All I can do is say/ warn everyone to pay close attn to what's unfolding right before us. This is a pipe dream from the to control us all by making us hostage through financial handcuffs. These ESG laws are gonna be tied directly with this Digital currency. "The Great Reset"
I manage 40 hard working outstanding employees. Very blessed. They along with yours truly are being raped every trip to the pump, grocery store. Sucking every penny out of our pockets and leaving very little if any disposable income to spend on anything else. Which means we aren't buying other items. We are a consumer driving economy. Headed right into the jaws of a recession at a bare minimum. This whole crisis could have been avoided and happened as a result of dumfounding policies.
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Yep and the media keeps pumping news of a record economy . Yeah ok. Reality says otherwise ! Our money is worthless and prices keep going up.
 
OIL- There are many moving parts. There was added regulations that made it more expensive or risky to add rigs and to drill. i am not going to spend the time to do a line item on these moving parts and regulations. Too save everyone time, just look at the price history of oil. Presidents get blamed for everything that happens during their tender. It is part of the gig. But Biden has done poor on the energy part. It is what it is. He owns it. So, before I am rebutted a million times after this post. Oil cheap before he was president, much higher since he has taken control. Better to admit it than look foolish trying to defend it. -Money talks, BullSh#t walks. -
 
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Downeastnc said:
Several very real things that people need to accept.....first and foremost fossil fuel is a finite commodity, there is only so much of it out there.....we use it a hell of a lot faster than its created. Add to that the fact that certain places pretty much control the flow of said commodity and well its only going to get worse. Going green is the only viable option going forward.....there is no future in oil because it will be gone in a 50-100 or so years.

US oil companies are deliberately NOT increasing production to bank more money to offset the crappy past few years due to Covid.....remember while you were happy to only be paying 1.80 a gallon back in 2020 over 200k US oil workers lost their jobs since there was no demand for oil. This caused big hits to the bottom line for shareholders of major US oil companies. Now with high oil prices most US oil companies are slow rolling new well development ( thus all these open leases ) so they can bank profit. They are choosing to turn a profit over increasing production to meet demand thus lowering the price and saving you money.

So what you are seeing with gas prices is pretty much how things are going to be, outside of things like pandemics crushing demand....$3-4 a gallon will be average and its only going to go up as supplies dwindle. It would be this price right now regardless who was president, the only thing to prevented it from happening 2-3 years ago was covid....
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I'm all for going green. But it will take decades and still will not produce , even come close to meeting our energy needs to sustain us. The love affair with battery powered vehicles and fact it wrecks the environment through to destruction of rain forest for raw materials all for what? Meanwhile China/ India etc keep right on humming along with no regard for these pie in the sky CO2 emission standards imposed on us .

We cancelled 10,000 well paying Pipeline jobs with the stroke of a pen through an executive order. Our solution go have Russia negotiate a horrendous deal with Iran , so we can dump millions of tax payer dollars into a rogue regime/ free money in order to purchase more oil from them, not to mention Venezuela. Then we use up our strategic supply that only nets us a day and half worth of oil while simultaneously possibly on the eve of WWIII.
 
I'm sure there could have been another way to make sure that ukraine got 14 billion dollars... Instead of us giving it to them and some of that money was dedicated to covid...
 
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NCSNOW said:
Our debt has skyrocketed/ballooned to over 30 trillion dollars. If you had a 10% pay increase the past 12 months, your still pocketing less money than 12 months ago.
Most everyone is struggling right now. You cant slow down the economy by raising interest rates. You cant tighten the monetary policy or loosing it. Its a lose/lose either way.
The road to funnel everyone into the Digital currency has been paved with the Russia invasion crisis. They are gonna let the dollar collapse folks. Gonna cost us all. The Globalist are licking their chops. All I can do is say/ warn everyone to pay close attn to what's unfolding right before us. This is a pipe dream from the to control us all by making us hostage through financial handcuffs. These ESG laws are gonna be tied directly with this Digital currency. "The Great Reset"
I manage 40 hard working outstanding employees. Very blessed. They along with yours truly are being raped every trip to the pump, grocery store. Sucking every penny out of our pockets and leaving very little if any disposable income to spend on anything else. Which means we aren't buying other items. We are a consumer driving economy. Headed right into the jaws of a recession at a bare minimum. This whole crisis could have been avoided and happened as a result of dumfounding policies.
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Should have raised rates 3 years ago but that would hurt someone's chance of reelection.
 
Heelyes said:
Should have raised rates 3 years ago but that would hurt someone's chance of reelection.
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Dont worry they came up with a few other ways to do that, last one stuck well.
Anyway our economic problems and woes are tied directly to our Current POTUS Diplomatic actions. No 2 ways about it.
The decessions and polocies are so absurbed, it causes me to wonder if they are being done deliberately to tear us down, so we get built back, conformed to their own image. Great Reset.
 
Welp my post was deleted. That’s my queue! Some must ponder why so many bright and knowledgeable members leave this board. The insight this board used to offer isn’t really here anymore, and I’m not solely referring to one individual. I would expect the mods to be accepting of all point of views, but not when it goes against what you believe I suppose. Try not to politicize everything on a forum dedicated for weather challenge, GO!!

P.s. This is probably the message that ends the thread and I truly take ownership in that ??
 
Cadi40 said:
Welp my post was deleted. That’s my queue! Some must ponder why so many bright and knowledgeable members leave this board. The insight this board used to offer isn’t really here anymore, and I’m not solely referring to one individual. I would expect the mods to be accepting of all point of views, but not when it goes against what you believe I suppose. Try not to politicize everything on a forum dedicated for weather challenge, GO!!
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Goodbye ? you do nothing but complain about moderation in non weather threads.
 
Cadi40 said:
Welp my post was deleted. That’s my queue! Some must ponder why so many bright and knowledgeable members leave this board. The insight this board used to offer isn’t really here anymore, and I’m not solely referring to one individual. I would expect the mods to be accepting of all point of views, but not when it goes against what you believe I suppose. Try not to politicize everything on a forum dedicated for weather challenge, GO!!

P.s. This is probably the message that ends the thread and I truly take ownership in that ??
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It wasn't just yours, in fact I've deleted a few post this morning on both sides of the argument. When they start getting "too heated" emotional, language issues, etc I delete as to try at all cost to keep the thread on topic as best as possible.

And Shane banned him before I could respond, oh well... easy come easy go
 
metwannabe said:
It wasn't just yours, in fact I've deleted a few post this morning on both sides of the argument. When they start getting "too heated" emotional, language issues, etc I delete as to try at all cost to keep the thread on topic as best as possible.

And Shane banned him before I could respond, oh well... easy come easy go
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Welp people wanted the thread, accept the consequences that come with it. Also said poster has complained NUMEROUS times about the quality of this board in non weather threads and moderation as a whole. Don't like it here? Leave or start your own
 
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