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SE US freezes/frosts April 2-4 with mega frost possibly down to Hogtown April 3rd!

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The models have been very consistent for many days in calling for the coldest nights in quite a while for the SE US April 2-3 due to an impressive Canadian high coming down. One or even two freezes are likely to occur in much of the northern SE. Frosts will be possible much further south, especially 4/3 when winds are light and dewpoints are a little higher.

Interestingly, the models have also been showing that upper 30s could make it down as far south as @pcbjr 's abode of Hogtown for both nights! That would be quite notable. There very likely wouldn't be a frost there on 4/2 due to low dewpoints and winds but there's a better shot there on 4/3 when the dewpoints are somewhat higher and winds light.

Regarding my abode, lows near 38-39 for both nights have been consistently predicted by the GFS for many runs in a row. I wouldn't be shocked if it got even colder than 38 due to very low dewpoints.

The mean at both locations on 4/2 has a good shot at being the coldest for any day since way back in Feb with quite possibly the coldest at Hogtown since way back on Feb 4th!

From Jacksonville NWS:

"LIGHTER WINDS FRIDAY NIGHT WILL ALLOW
FOR POTENTIAL FROST DEVELOPMENT OVER INLAND SOUTHEAST GA AND
SUWANNEE VALLEY
. "

From NWS CHS:
For Thursday night:

"FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE POSSIBLE FAR INLAND AND IN THE
FRANCIS MARION, SO FREEZE HEADLINES MAY BE NEEDED WITH THE NEXT MAIN
FORECAST PACKAGE. LUCKILY, NW WINDS WILL REMAIN IN THE 5-10 MPH
RANGE AND RH VALUES WILL STRUGGLE TO REACH 60%, WHICH WILL MAKE IT
VERY DIFFICULT FOR FROST TO FORM."


"FRIDAY NIGHT WILL BE THE COLDEST NIGHT OUR AREA HAS HAD IN A WHILE, AND
MORE IMPACTFUL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. THE COMBINATION OF AN ALREADY
COLD AIRMASS, LIGHT OR MAYBE CALM WINDS, AND CLEAR SKIES WILL CAUSE
TEMPERATURES TO PLUMMET. LOWS WILL BE IN THE 30S WITH POTENTIALLY A
MAJORITY OF OUR NON-COASTAL COUNTIES AT RISK OF REACHING FREEZING

TEMPERATURES. THIS IS MORE LIKELY TO OCCUR IF WINDS GO CALM, WHICH
MODELS ARE HINTING MIGHT HAPPEN. ADDITIONALLY, IF WINDS GO CALM,
WE'LL NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE FROST POTENTIAL
. LUCKILY, RH VALUES
WILL STRUGGLE TO REACH 70%, WHICH WOULD LIMIT THE FROST POTENTIAL.
EITHER WAY, SOME MORE FREEZE HEADLINES MAY BE NEEDED FRIDAY NIGHT.
SATURDAY, TEMPERATURES FINALLY WARM UP AS THE AIR MASS MODERATES.
THIS IS A STRETCH AS THEY WILL STILL BE IN THE 60S INSTEAD OF THE
50S."
 
The models have been very consistent for many days in calling for the coldest nights in quite a while for the SE US April 2-3 due to an impressive Canadian high coming down. One or even two freezes are likely to occur in much of the northern SE. Frosts will be possible much further south, especially 4/3 when winds are light and dewpoints are a little higher.

Interestingly, the models have also been showing that upper 30s could make it down as far south as @pcbjr 's abode of Hogtown for both nights! That would be quite notable. There very likely wouldn't be a frost there on 4/2 due to low dewpoints and winds but there's a better shot there on 4/3 when the dewpoints are somewhat higher and winds light.

Regarding my abode, lows near 38-39 for both nights have been consistently predicted by the GFS for many runs in a row. I wouldn't be shocked if it got even colder than 38 due to very low dewpoints.

The mean at both locations on 4/2 has a good shot at being the coldest for any day since way back in Feb with quite possibly the coldest at Hogtown since way back on Feb 4th!

From Jacksonville NWS:

"LIGHTER WINDS FRIDAY NIGHT WILL ALLOW
FOR POTENTIAL FROST DEVELOPMENT OVER INLAND SOUTHEAST GA AND
SUWANNEE VALLEY. "

From NWS CHS:
For Thursday night:

"FREEZING TEMPERATURES ARE POSSIBLE FAR INLAND AND IN THE
FRANCIS MARION, SO FREEZE HEADLINES MAY BE NEEDED WITH THE NEXT MAIN
FORECAST PACKAGE. LUCKILY, NW WINDS WILL REMAIN IN THE 5-10 MPH
RANGE AND RH VALUES WILL STRUGGLE TO REACH 60%, WHICH WILL MAKE IT
VERY DIFFICULT FOR FROST TO FORM."


"FRIDAY NIGHT WILL BE THE COLDEST NIGHT OUR AREA HAS HAD IN A WHILE, AND
MORE IMPACTFUL FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. THE COMBINATION OF AN ALREADY
COLD AIRMASS, LIGHT OR MAYBE CALM WINDS, AND CLEAR SKIES WILL CAUSE
TEMPERATURES TO PLUMMET. LOWS WILL BE IN THE 30S WITH POTENTIALLY A
MAJORITY OF OUR NON-COASTAL COUNTIES AT RISK OF REACHING FREEZING

TEMPERATURES. THIS IS MORE LIKELY TO OCCUR IF WINDS GO CALM, WHICH
MODELS ARE HINTING MIGHT HAPPEN. ADDITIONALLY, IF WINDS GO CALM,
WE'LL NEED TO KEEP AN EYE ON THE FROST POTENTIAL
. LUCKILY, RH VALUES
WILL STRUGGLE TO REACH 70%, WHICH WOULD LIMIT THE FROST POTENTIAL.
EITHER WAY, SOME MORE FREEZE HEADLINES MAY BE NEEDED FRIDAY NIGHT.
SATURDAY, TEMPERATURES FINALLY WARM UP AS THE AIR MASS MODERATES.
THIS IS A STRETCH AS THEY WILL STILL BE IN THE 60S INSTEAD OF THE
50S."
I can verify that @pcbjr is excited!
 
RAH going with a low of 29 IMBY on Friday morning and 28 on Saturday morning! ❄

Given that, expect @metwannabe’s wintry abode to bottom out in the upper teens!!! modernweenie
This is pretty bad , 32 is the mean min , every few years or so you get down to 28 but 2 nights like that? I’m not looking forward to waiting till may for leaves . We will be up there with ------- New England at that pace .
 
18Z Euro comes in similar to the 12Z with the cold.

Also. I'm requesting this thread be pinned with the other 3 for a few days since it is discussing near term threats. TIA.
 
RAH going with a low of 29 IMBY on Friday morning and 28 on Saturday morning! ❄

Given that, expect @metwannabe’s wintry abode to bottom out in the upper teens!!! modernweenie
RAH dropped me down to 27 and 26 now. Brr. Pretty cold for April and near a daily record.
 
RAH dropped me down to 27 and 26 now. Brr. Pretty cold for April and near a daily record.
That’s very cold for April actually . We woke up to temps that were 5 degrees warmer than forecast though and they upped the high for today. Not too mention I don’t think Nashville ever froze . There’s hope .
 
National Weather Service Jacksonville FL
948 AM EDT Thu Apr 1 2021

...MUCH COOLER AND BREEZY TODAY AND TONIGHT...

...FROST LIKELY INLAND FRIDAY NIGHT WITH POTENTIAL FOR LIGHT
FREEZE OVER INLAND SOUTHEAST GEORGIA...

.UPDATE...

Likely too much wind at the surface
for any frost formation tonight, but near calm winds and even
colder overnight lows late Friday Night/Saturday Morning is
setting the stage for plenty of frost over inland areas and
potential for a light Freeze event over inland SE GA, as current
MOS guidance has Alma below 32F Sat Morning on all three sets of
models (NAM,GFS,ECMWF).
 
As of 11 AM, the 6Z GFS is almost spot on with temps at ATL and SAV with it having 44 at ATL vs actual of 45 and 56 at SAV vs actual of 55.

Dewpoints: 6Z GFS has 17 at ATL, which is exactly where it actually is. But for SAV, it has dewpoint of 33 vs actual of 40. So, actual speed of dew-point drop is lagging the GFS so far. We’ll see whether or not that is just a temporary lag at SAV. The GFS has it dropping to 27 as of 5PM. Let’s see what happens over the next 6 hours.
 
AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHARLESTON SC
1118 AM EDT THU APR 1 2021

TONIGHT: A QUIET, COLD AND DRY NIGHT IS EXPECTED. COLD AIR
ADVECTION AND CLEAR SKIES WILL CONTINUE OVERNIGHT, ALLOWING TEMPERATURES TO FALL INTO THE LOW TO MID 30S INLAND AND UPPER
30S TO LOW 40S JUST ALONG THE COAST. A FREEZE WARNING COULD BE
NEEDED, BUT AS OF NOW, CONFIDENCE OF A WIDESPREAD FREEZE IS TOO LOW. WINDS WILL LIKELY BE TOO STRONG AND RH'S TOO LOW FOR ANY FROST FORMATION.
————————————
Here’s what they say for Fri night:

LIGHT NORTHERLY/CALMING WINDS UNDER CLEAR SKIES WILL LEAD TO A STRONG
RADIATIONAL COOLING SETUP OVERNIGHT WITH TEMPS APPROACHING THE
FREEZING MARK AWAY FROM THE COAST WITHIN A FEW HOURS OF DAYBREAK SATURDAY. A FREEZE WATCH WILL LIKELY BE NEEDED FOR INLAND COUNTIES.
A FROST ADVISORY IS ALSO NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION FOR LOCATIONS CLOSER TO THE COAST AND ACROSS SOUTHERN MOST AREAS IN SOUTHEAST
GEORGIA WHERE SFC TEMPS APPROACH THE MID 30S LATE.
 
Fantastic disco from RDU:

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RALEIGH NC
1035 AM EDT THU APR 1 2021

SHORT TERM /FRIDAY AND FRIDAY NIGHT/

AS OF 355 AM THURSDAY...

...(NEAR) RECORD COLD, HARD FREEZING TEMPERATURES LIKELY SATURDAY MORNING...

A 2-3 SIGMA BELOW AVERAGE 500 MB LOW OVER THE NRN MIDDLE ATLANTIC AT 12Z FRI WILL PIVOT OFFSHORE THROUGH 12Z SAT, WITH ASSOCIATED NNWLY
MID/UPR-LEVEL FLOW AND RISING HEIGHTS FORECAST OVER CNTL NC.

AT THE SURFACE AND BENEATH THOSE RISING HEIGHTS ALOFT, AN EQUALLY (TO SLIGHTLY MORE) ANOMALOUS, 1037 MB CP HIGH OVER IL/IN AT 12Z FRI
WILL BUILD SEWD AND INTO THE CNTL/SRN APPALACHIANS THROUGH 12Z SAT.

IN NNWLY LOW LEVEL FLOW AROUND THAT HIGH, CONTINUED COLD AND DRY AIR ADVECTION WILL FAVOR A DEEPLY MIXED BOUNDARY LAYER AND LITTLE IN THE WAY OF CLOUDINESS OWING IN PART TO FORECAST SURFACE DEWPOINTS IN THE
SINGLE DIGITS TO TEENS F, EXCEPT FOR GENERALLY SCATTERED, 8-10
THOUSAND FT ALTOCUMULUS OVER THE NE PIEDMONT AND COASTAL PLAIN, IN
RESIDUALLY COLD, CYCLONIC FLOW ALOFT NEAREST THE LOW/TROUGH AXIS
ALOFT. DESPITE ASSOCIATED ABUNDANT SUNSHINE, TEMPERATURES WILL BE 15-
20F BELOW AVERAGE FOR HIGHS ON FRI, OR UPR 40S-LWR 50S. AND WHILE A RESIDUAL WELL-MIXED LAYER WILL LIKELY PERSIST IN THE LOWEST SEVERAL
THSD FT AGL FRI NIGHT, A WEAKENING OF THE MSL PRESSURE GRADIENT WITH
THE PROXIMITY OF THE CP HIGH BY SAT MORNING WILL FAVOR THE
DEVELOPMENT OF AN INVERSION BELOW THAT WELL-MIXED LAYER, WITH ASSOCIATED PERIODS OF CALM OR ONLY OCCASIONAL LIGHT NWLY STIRRING.
AS SUCH, VERY GOOD RADIATIONAL COOLING CONDITIONS WILL RESULT. OUR
LOCAL 1000-850 THICKNESS CLIMATOLOGY FAVORS A HARD FREEZE, WITH LOW
TEMPERATURES IN THE LWR-MID 20S - SUPPORTED BY BOTH THE EC ENSEMBLE AND MET STATISTICAL GUIDANCE, WHICH ARE CONSISTENTLY GOOD AND
DIFFICULT TO BEAT IN SUCH RADIATIONAL COOLING REGIMES.
 
WAKE-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF RALEIGH, CARY, APEX, WAKE FOREST, AND KNIGHTDALE
1004 AM EDT THU APR 1 2021

..FREEZE WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 9 AM EDT FRIDAY


REST OF TODAY MOSTLY SUNNY. MUCH COOLER WITH HIGHS IN THE MID 50S. NORTHWEST WINDS AROUND 15 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH.

TONIGHT
MOSTLY CLEAR. MUCH COLDER WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER 20S.
NORTHWEST WINDS 10 TO 15 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH.

FRIDAY
SUNNY. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 40S. NORTHWEST WINDS 10 TO
15 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 MPH.

FRIDAY NIGHT
CLEAR, COLD WITH LOWS IN THE MID 20S. NORTHWEST
WINDS 5 TO 10 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 20 MPH IN THE EVENING,
BECOMING LIGHT AND VARIABLE.
 
RDU NWS is forecasting mid 20s for the low tomorrow night at Raleigh. The coldest in March was 26. So, they have the chance to have their coldest since the 22 of 2/21! Also, their coldest all winter was 20. So, they are expected to be only about 5 warmer than the coldest of the winter!
 
This is catastrophic and pushing our coldest April record, not good. We haven't had mid-20s since 1992. I'm gonna bet against it for now. nws has 27 which would be coldest since 2007.

With the NWS' mid 20s for Fri night's low at Raleigh, they're favoring the typically cold biased CMC, which is still insisting on being significantly colder than other models, especially deep in the SE...(look how far south is the 32 line!)....going to be interesting to follow as the CMC was the coldest by far on a run from 8 days ago (which I dismissed due to cold bias and is now looking like a guru model).
12Z CMC for Saturday morning maintains the same very cold look quite far south: could get a huge win

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Now compare the 12Z CMC run of today with the same from 8 days ago (3/24 12z run), which I had said was too cold to believe due to cold bias as well as being much colder than the GFS/Euro, but which is very similar to today's 12Z: the high was too strong by ~4-5 mb but otherwise, wow for a day 10 forecast map!

canop_12_t2ms_us_h_0240.png
 
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