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How long has the euro ai been a thing? I don’t remember any mention of it last year. If it’s a new model then what’s the track record so far? Spann BUSTED the rain forecast last week… said 2-4 inches my area… we got over 7 inches! Based on the fact no one seems to be able to forecast anything these days, I think no one knows what’s going to happen 100% even leading up to the event.on Twitter he added "The Reliable" EURO A.I.... look, I get verification scores ect but my god, enough with the glazing of the EURO. Like if its that much better just get rid of the other suites, apparently no one looks at them or cares what they say anyway so why even run them. The issue that makes it annoying though is if roles were reversed and EURO was showing an amped stormy solution they wouldnt post it and then theyd hug the gfs. It is the double standard for me
How long has the euro ai been a thing? I don’t remember any mention of it last year. If it’s a new model then what’s the track record so far? Spann BUSTED the rain forecast last week… said 2-4 inches my area… we got over 7 inches! Based on the fact no one seems to be able to forecast anything these days, I think no one knows what’s going to happen 100% even leading up to the event.
Clearly the regional conference-call talking points have been disseminatedSolid AFD from TAE this afternoon, they did introduce 30% wintry mix probs into the grid Saturday night...
Area Forecast Discussion
National Weather Service Tallahassee FL
256 PM EST Wed Jan 14 2026
Okay, so back to Sunday morning. It`s very much a "thread the needle" kind of event. In other words, wintry mischief is a long shot, but in the words of Lloyd Christmas: So you`re telling me there`s a chance.
Yes. Yes, there is. However, it`s a low (less than 20%) chance at this time. There are a few things working both for and against wintry weather Sunday morning and will chat about what we`ll be watching the next couple of days.
Okay, so what does this event have going for it?
There is a broad H5 trough diving out of Canada Friday night into Saturday. A shortwave will be rotating around the trough on the western side of it, which eventually gets flung eastward as it
rounds the base of the trough Saturday night. This provides ample lift ahead of it, right over our area Saturday night into early Sunday morning. Additionally, we`ll be in the right entrance region
of a stout 100+ knot jet at 200mb over the southeast, further enhancing upper-level lift. A strong cold front rushes southeast through the region early Sunday morning, providing a focal point for lift at the surface. In other words, there`s lots of lift around. We`ll also have a strong 1030+ mb surface high oozing out of Canada and into our area Saturday night into Sunday morning. This is what`s bringing the cold weather, whether it brings wintry weather or not.
What is working against it?
Cold chasing moisture. Precipitation typically outruns the arrival of the cold. Virtually all model and ensemble guidance has rain changing over to snow on the western (or back) side of the
precipitation. In this forecaster`s experience, that usually doesn`t work out so well or typically happens exactly as modeled by global models. We`ll keep an eye on how hi-res guidance starts handling things, but those only go out 48 to 84 hours. We`ll start to get in the range of some of the hi-res guidance tonight.
Another thing working against it are dew points forecast to be well into the 40s and even lower 50s for portions of the area Saturday afternoon. Add in the fact forecast temperatures Saturday afternoon are in the upper 50s and 60s and it`ll be tough to wet bulb, or cool, close to freezing. That said, strong Cold Air Advection (CAA)
arrives Saturday night into Sunday morning. But that goes back to whether the cold can appropriately cool the nearly saturated column
of air before precipitation ends. That`s a big ask in many parts of the country, much less along the Gulf Coast.
Let`s break down a few potential scenarios:
Scenario #1:
The precipitation outruns the cold and we`re stuck with an all rain event. The cold is delayed just long enough to limit any snow accumulation potential.
Scenario #2:
The cold arrives, as advertised, and allows for a sudden change over to wintry weather (read snow). If this scenario were to play out, there`d be a 1 to 3 hour window for snow before quickly exiting to the east Sunday morning. Exact timing would be tricky leading up to the event, much less 3.5-4 days out.
Scenario #3:
The trough is a little more east than forecast and we get a dry frontal passage. That means little to no rain; no wintry weather. Nada. Just cold.
We`ll continue to monitor the potential the next couple of days and adjust the forecast as necessary. Be sure to remain updated with the latest weather forecast and get your weather information from trusted sources.
The Ukmet looked great yesterday, then lost it last night and has started trending back. They're all wobbling on both sides of what will most likely happen and will start to zero in on that in next 48 hrs. As long as none lose it completely either way, lots of folks very much in play for sureMore/less every model run has trended diggier/wetter since yesterday. With the exception of the ukmet.
I expect that will continue tonight. Wouldn’t shock me if the next gfs run is even more amped than 12z.
Out to F51 on Pivotal. Placement similar to GFS but seems to be a lot faster.Is the 18z NAM out yet?
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I was having trouble with mine earlier on my phone but I don't have Verizon. It was throwing up a 404 errorDoes anyone know if the Verizon tower issues will potentially affect any websites? Just curious if it will affect some of the weather sites, for instance, I'm having issues logging into my pivotal account. Weird I can access it on my phone but not the computer
More/less every model run has trended diggier/wetter since yesterday. With the exception of the ukmet.
I expect that will continue tonight. Wouldn’t shock me if the next gfs run is even more amped than 12z.
CoD is out to 57 and is looking way wetter so far. Liking the slower and higher amping to dig moisture up earlier.3 run trend on the NAM, also why it is more juiced thus far thru h54 too
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It’s running slow on WeatherbellNAM already more juiced @51 with snow in N Arkansas and into Tn
Btw, NAM running on Pivotal but not on TT (why I was wondering if Verizon tower issues was affecting some sites)
More/less every model run has trended diggier/wetter since yesterday. With the exception of the ukmet.
I expect that will continue tonight. Wouldn’t shock me if the next gfs run is even more amped than 12z.

I'm not sure that is my favorite.