I have a company car that's a hybrid and I actually love it... Its my first hybrid I've ever driven.
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Learning Global Warming facts and fiction
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There’s intimacy to be had elsewhere like in the design of the car and the touchscreen inside you control a bunch on the inside
LickWx
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Ehhh. Idk man it’s less connection to your vehicle . You don’t control it , it controls you lol.
Avalanche
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I love turbochargers. I dont mind a hybrid blend with charge and gas, as long as the exhaust goes through a turbine then back into the forcefed manifold
@me next time too. Of course that rhetoric is hyperbole but it's spewed daily by those with an agenda. Many in high places have claimed we have 12 years or less left, it's why I said it
That graph you posted actual observations? Of course not, carbon dating or some science or technology. Models can't predict the weather 5 days out yet I'm supposed to believe we know what the climate was like, precisely, thousands of years ago.
@NickyBGuarantee hard to take you serious when you claim Teslas are cheap
I didn’t mean to say they are cheap but they are worth the money mainly for the fact that you’ll have to not spend a whole lot after u buy them. That and they retain their value off the lot. You buy them at 30,000 and you’ll sell them at 30,000 it’s more of an investment tbh
Yes we can use carbon dating and all that to figure out a general idea of what it was back then and it didn’t have the extreme increase or decrease in temps (because there’s no carbon emissions in extreme excess back then obviously ).. with all the extremely good data we get the past several decades we can clearly see a trend that is clearly not leveling out in any way and to ignore it and look the other way and try to pivot to say well we don’t know the exact temperature it was on every spot on the earth in 1200 is a bit ridiculous when we have been able to record data very well over the past 200 years or so and the clear trend is there and the clear science is there. Don’t listen to people with an agenda listen to the scientists and meteorologists who know what they are talking about and those people will tell you the same things I’m trying to convey
Who is ignoring it and looking the other way? Confucious say, read more with less arrogance and you may go far
LickWx
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Senior year of high school I read a ton of books I checked out form my public library on this all. These books were written by paleo climatologists . People with an in-depth knowledge of geology and climate . They had all the insight into the past… and you know what they all concluded … this world has seen some swings and changes so extreme and unimaginable to us today and we are in fact in a very comfortable , surprisingly stable period . You ever heard of the younger dryas ? My boy you got some reading to do ! I should start reading those again . It’s what shaped my opinion.
Got to finish my book on the rise and fall of dinosaurs and investing first . Read !
I know about younger dryas that period of time was over 1000 years of time where that change occurred .. and that was a period of rapid cooling that took place .. also this came after a period of rapid warming which melted tons of ice and screwed the Atlantic conveyer and put the globe in a fat ole ice age… these types of changes can cause major downturn effects the difference between now and then? Although the change back then was natural but still considered ‘rapid’ this change still occurred over 100s of years .. right now our averages are rising every year and the rate is quite alarming for a 40 year sample
LickWx
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False that changed occurred quite literally overnight . It wasn’t 100s of years it was a handful . It was a very violent switch .
Anyone who doesn’t believe the globe is warming at an alarming rate and that these changes can have big ramifications in OUR lifetime is ignoring and looking the other way .. and telling me to read? @lick I have taken classes at university taught by scientists and climatologists and that is where I get my information from .. I won’t be told that what I’ve learned from them is not good information
You’re right 40-50 years it took to put those rapid weather changing conditions into place across the globe .. now our earth is doing the opposite and warming rapidly and over 40-50 more years what happens then? Should we not be worried about that?
LickWx
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Always question everything . Have no trust in someone who presents debatable topics to you as unquestionable fact . You want to contribute something meaningful to this world ? Question everything , that’s how new discoveries are made. I also refuse to trust scientists who do not question things , and are part of a political issue .
You do realize the amount of bad and bs studies that get published right ? It’s not a small number , it’s theorized to be more than half . You know why that is ? For one you can make the stats sing for you whatever you want through various tricks . Second journals are like a business , they don’t like to publish studies that have already been done, so you don’t get to see whether the results are truly replicable or not . Third , they do not like studies that show “ negative results “ meaning no breakthrough . They love breakthroughs . Breakthroughs sell . Oh and the extent is horrible , a study on some of the top cancer studies out there revealed many of them did not have replicable results .
Many of those professors unfortunately have an agenda and as such most are alarmist.
I haven't read anything from one single member on here denying that we are currently in a warmer climate but rather question the reasons and challenge the alarmist views. It seems if one isn't all in on the sky is falling narrative then your somehow looking the other way. Btw I had a professor tell me back in the late 1900s, that Rocky Mount would be ocean front property in his lifetime. Sadly he has passed and I still have to drive almost 3 hours to the beach.
It wasn’t presented as undoubted fact but there was PLENTY on science to back up claims and that was what the whole class was about showing the evidence selling about what the evidence could mean and the implications for the world. Realistic best case scenarios/worst case/ standard scenarios… the thing is what if it’s right and we’re just stuck here questioning everything? What happens if the science turns out to be right what do we do then? When it’s too late? Just watch? Why not try and stop it and reduce emissions and see how the climate adjusts after that? I mean we never questioned the scientists when they figured out the pollutants of chlorine and bromine into the atmosphere were depleting the ozone layer .. if this continued it would have completely depleted and we all would be dead right now .. but we listened we stopped polluting those and the ozone layer stopped getting shredded and has now recently been imaged to be finally repairing itself although slowly over the Antarctic
I mean the class was far from an alarming kind of view it was really a class of talking about the realistic outcomes of climate change which are still profound and deadly to property and life but not in the ways the alarmists want you to think. I’m not believing in the fact that everything implodes rapidly but all I’m saying is why do we sit and wait 40-50 years when by then the impacts won’t be able to be reversed? Like in the case of the ozone hole .. obviously more deadly scenario for everyone if we didn’t act when we did that had the potential to kill everyone if we didn’t act when we were seeing the data. We can’t just do nothing though. We can’t find ways and implement them in big factories to help reduce emissions I mean to give America some props we have reduced our carbon emissions a lot but China and all over there have not and have listened little to any guidance this hurts us
I still can't quite understand why the warming is so alarming. Unless we're just frustrated because it doesn't snow as much. A warmer climate is more hospital for plant and animal life than a cold one.
The other problem is that you have key political supporters of doomsday climate change, who lie about virtually anything at the drop of a hat and also refuse to live their lives in the light of the impending calamity, failing to practice what they preach, as it were.
And in lock step with that, you have a myriad of primary news and media outlets declaring every major weather event as a product of climate change. It's preposterous.
And lastly, we have the capability of viewing and measuring the world today in ultra high definition 4k, while we view the climate record in black and white on a 20" screen while wearing glasses with scratched lenses. Yet, we have the audacity to declare this or that with absolute certainly.
When you hear the term "settled science", as is frequently used in the CC debate, that ought to be a big red flag.
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