Sandbar
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To be honest I am not a fan of these types of things because they just create more triggered responses from people up and down the spectrum of opinions.
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I tend to agree
The problem is they (including ballroom, slush fund, DC arch, reflecting pool, allowing things to be named after himself while still Pres, showing off things made of gold, widespread large tariffs, Iran war etc) make him seem to not care enough/be out of touch about every day Americans with financial issues and to instead care more about rich folk as well as only MAGA peeps. Not a good look and for good reason! As Pres, DT is supposed to support his entire country, not just MAGA peeps. He’s always been so ridiculously divisive, which has been a huge turn off for me since 2016. And now he’s even turning off some of MAGA.
I had gotten the impression that Obama was way too divisive, which was a big turn-off. Thus I never considered voting for him. Plus I had voted almost entirely GOP for Pres up through then anyway (all but one before DT). But then DT comes along and says hold my beer!
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ghost1
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The House voted to send aid to Ukraine and impose sanctions on Russia. A great move for freedom and democracy 
ghost1
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If believing that gives you guys some solace go ahead…. a group MAGA hug just might help too
If believing that gives you guys some solace go ahead…. a group MAGA hug just might help too
I guess the same can be said about those who make illogical or misinformed comments.
The House voted to send aid to Ukraine and impose sanctions on Russia. A great move for freedom and democracy
Will it pass the senate though
Even if so, wouldn’t DT veto it?
Avalanche
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That's when the wheels come off
Brent
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This thread is nothing compared to some of the stuff I've seen elsewhere
I mean there's people literally waiting for Trump to die and posting every hour about it! Other people talking about getting out of America while you have the chance? Oh and forget any kind of celebrations for the 250th. I've never seen anything like it
How did our country get like this. It's really sad
I mean there's people literally waiting for Trump to die and posting every hour about it! Other people talking about getting out of America while you have the chance? Oh and forget any kind of celebrations for the 250th. I've never seen anything like it
How did our country get like this. It's really sad
ForsythSnow
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It gets cleaned up if it shows up. Plus, this thread is meant to be about the war and stuff surrounding it and what it affects, not spew about politics and out of war related political happenings. On that note, I get why people are not proud of our country and have talked to so many on why, and it's things like this war and how we went about it as well as the obvious insider trades that have happened around war events. If you want people to be proud of our country, it needs to be lead in a unifying and trusting way, not in one that creates an us vs them mentality. We also need to not get into wars like this
Wulfer
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Here's the thing those people need to sole search in two years. Who are they gonna blame when TD is out of office? If TD is responsible for fanning the flames. Then the Media and Hollywood are just as responsible. The backlash on Disney is a prime example of this!
So much THIS!!!!
This thread is, indeed, quite tame compared to similar topics at other boards! There’s relatively little belittling each other in here compared to other places although I realize some posts are removed. It gets a bit robust, but that’s to be expected. Robust but still respectful debate isn’t a bad thing imho. There’s some belittling of politicians but that’s different from belittling each other and it’s like you said nothing like others where death is wished on politicians.
You asked, “how did our country get like this?” What’s your guess?
Sandbar
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When you are engrained in a society designed to pit one human against the other from the time they get up in the morning to the time they go to bed, eventually that becomes people's reality. We are put in survival mode from birth until death and right now there is little separating us from animals who live in survival mode instinctively. There is a reason why so many men and women I served with are coming back in shambles and taking their own lives in record numbers with these wars. NOTHING is worth that and people who say "Sometimes you just have to fight" most likely never had to watch someone die with their brains splattered all over a concrete wall.
The rest of the world isn't proud of us yet they flock here in droves. Ok
Shaggy
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We are being ripped off right and left both sides of the aisle. I think corruption is at an all time high right now.
Trump ballroom donors awarded $50B in taxpayer-funded contracts in last six months: watchdog https://share.google/tybDDbQdPlYzBs8Dl
New love tap in Quesm and Kharg Island. Iran responded by firing at Kuwait and Bahrain.
ghost1
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The IDF struck in Beirut this morning.
Probably seeing the shadow plan now.
www.yahoo.com
The Strait of Hormuz is more open than previously thought as the U.S. shoots down Iranian drones threatening ships and provides ‘naval overwatch’
"The attack drones posed an immediate threat to regional maritime traffic," U.S. Central Command said.
Going to be a while though. There are a crapton of tankers waiting on the Persian Gulf outside of the Strait.Probably seeing the shadow plan now.
The Strait of Hormuz is more open than previously thought as the U.S. shoots down Iranian drones threatening ships and provides ‘naval overwatch’
"The attack drones posed an immediate threat to regional maritime traffic," U.S. Central Command said.
Have a feeling it will be a rocky week in the Middle East. Trump called for more “surgical” strikes on Hezbollah.
Pakistani negotiators right now:
I don’t trust Lindsey will hold to this impassioned plea. He may or may not….don’t let his passion fool you as he’s been known to do complete 180 degree turns when impassioned in the past:
1) In 2016, he famously said:
If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it". He refused to support Trump, calling him unfit for office and ultimately voting for a third-party candidate instead.
During the 2015-2016 GOP primary, Graham heavily criticized Trump, calling him a "jackass" and a "race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot"
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2) “I don’t buy this. Enough’s enough. We’ve got to end it,” Graham continued. “Vice President Pence, what they are asking you to do you won’t do because you can’t ... If you’re a conservative, this is the most offensive concept in the world, that a single person could disenfranchise 155 million people.”
Graham concluded by saying that “Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are lawfully elected and will be the president and vice president of the United States on January the 20th,” earning applause from his colleagues.
Lindsey Graham: “Count me out. Enough is enough”
Graham concluded by saying that “Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are lawfully elected and will be the president and vice president of the United States on January the 20th,” earning applause from his colleagues.
www.wbtv.com
Iran fired missiles at Israel.
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Another barrage just fired.
Iran's airspace is closed.
The entire country of Israel is closing schools until further notice.
Another barrage.
Another barrage fired.